How Do Maidana fans feel about Chino being called a "Bum?"

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  • Syf
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    #71
    I think people that say that are a bunch of mental midgets that dont know how to assess form or talent that latch onto Floyd over any opponent, save Pacquiao for some reason, because he makes them feel smart.

    incidentally.. if he did fight Pac and outpoint the guy, people would nod their heads sagely and say "I told you pac is a shell of his former self"

    Either that or its those rabid ass Khan fans saying it who really are a sad and delusional group.
    Last edited by Syf; 04-26-2014, 02:26 PM.

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    • B-Bomber
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      #72
      Originally posted by shenmue
      I don't get why people mention the Broner fight as a reason for his lack of power, if he does that to Floyd twice as in 2 Kd's he could even win on points.

      broner could have been stopped in that fight anyway, ref gave him a slow count on the first (and that dance he did when he got up was a stoppable offence in some ref's opinion) and in the 2nd Maidana spoiled it by giving broner a 3 min rest period after the headbutt. Its not like he didn't hurt Broner.
      I'm not saying that Maidana has no power, or not enough, he has plenty of it.

      I mentioned three fights for different reasons.

      Alexander showed that Maidana can be "outsmarted" , if there is something Alexander is good at, that is spoiling.

      Khan showed that Maidana can be outboxed, even by a fighter with mediocre defense and chin at best.

      Broner got his arse beaten in a soundly fashion, and showed that Maidana hurts you more through accumulation than by a one big punch.

      Floyd is not nearly as flat footed as Broner, and even if he decides to fight off the ropes at times (as he often does), I doubt Maidana will connect enough to make it matter.

      That is the only reason why I mentioned Broner, it is not a way to discredit Maidana, simply saying that I don't see how he could possibly win this fight.

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      • Fr3$h
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        #73
        I haven't really criticized Mayweather for the Maidana fight.

        Floyd has a history of suddenly wanting to fight opponents when they won yet looked sloppy or vulnerable doing it. Not here. Maidana looked good, he's young, he's strong.

        Sure Mayweather will probably beat Maidana's style with relative ease but that's different. Having the better style for a matchup is not "cherry picking" nor does it make the other guy a "bum".
        Last edited by Fr3$h; 04-26-2014, 02:36 PM.

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        • FerFAL
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          #74
          Originally posted by B-Bomber
          I'm not saying that Maidana has no power, or not enough, he has plenty of it.

          I mentioned three fights for different reasons.

          Alexander showed that Maidana can be "outsmarted" , if there is something Alexander is good at, that is spoiling.

          Khan showed that Maidana can be outboxed, even by a fighter with mediocre defense and chin at best.

          Broner got his arse beaten in a soundly fashion, and showed that Maidana hurts you more through accumulation than by a one big punch.

          Floyd is not nearly as flat footed as Broner, and even if he decides to fight off the ropes at times (as he often does), I doubt Maidana will connect enough to make it matter.

          That is the only reason why I mentioned Broner, it is not a way to discredit Maidana, simply saying that I don't see how he could possibly win this fight.
          Clinching all fight isnt "outsmarting". I saw the entire damn thing and there's really no excuse for what happened in that ring. Alexander should have been DQ several times over.
          Khan was getting his ass beaten in the last rounds by a version of Maidana that isnt nearly as good as the current one. Not in skill, stamina and strenght.
          I would also disagree on the Broner fight. Maidana set the pace of the fight in round one with his first couple power shots. Some of the punches landed on Broner during that fight where brutal and it only speaks of the ability of Broner to stay on his feet while getting brutalized.
          Maidana could use the same strategy of non-stop assoult, missing 10 and receiving 5 to land 1. Can it work? Sure it can, anything can happen in boxing and especially with a guy like Maidana one punch can change boxing history.

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          • Croyd
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            #75
            Originally posted by Still Burner
            What fighter at 147 wouldn't be a cherry pick geez
            Manny "Pacman" Pacquaio

            ^^ he's a duck

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            • Syf
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              #76
              Originally posted by B-Bomber
              I'm not saying that Maidana has no power, or not enough, he has plenty of it.

              I mentioned three fights for different reasons.

              Alexander showed that Maidana can be "outsmarted" , if there is something Alexander is good at, that is spoiling.

              Khan showed that Maidana can be outboxed, even by a fighter with mediocre defense and chin at best.

              Broner got his arse beaten in a soundly fashion, and showed that Maidana hurts you more through accumulation than by a one big punch.

              Floyd is not nearly as flat footed as Broner, and even if he decides to fight off the ropes at times (as he often does), I doubt Maidana will connect enough to make it matter.

              That is the only reason why I mentioned Broner, it is not a way to discredit Maidana, simply saying that I don't see how he could possibly win this fight.
              he was out of shape and half retired for Alexander. 1

              That Khan was a step up in class at the time.. but Maidana showed he belonged. He will show he deserved a fight with Mayweather as well. 2

              It was single shots that knocked down broner, not accumulation. He, especially since he's looking more beastly than he EVER has, has one shot kd or ko capability. 3




              straight right on soto k... overhand on lopez.. left hook on Broner...heavy heavy jab.. all he needs is a uppercut with the right range and leverage and he's a fighter that has knockdown or ko power in ANY single punch of his arsenal. 4-infinity

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              • Doctor_Tenma
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                #77
                Originally posted by FerFAL
                Clinching all fight isnt "outsmarting". I saw the entire damn thing and there's really no excuse for what happened in that ring. Alexander should have been DQ several times over.
                Khan was getting his ass beaten in the last rounds by a version of Maidana that isnt nearly as good as the current one. Not in skill, stamina and strenght.
                I would also disagree on the Broner fight. Maidana set the pace of the fight in round one with his first couple power shots. Some of the punches landed on Broner during that fight where brutal and it only speaks of the ability of Broner to stay on his feet while getting brutalized.
                Maidana could use the same strategy of non-stop assoult, missing 10 and receiving 5 to land 1. Can it work? Sure it can, anything can happen in boxing and especially with a guy like Maidana one punch can change boxing history.
                How come Alexander's clinching wasn't effective against Matthysse, Kotelnik, Bradley and Porter? Stop making excuses man.

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                • Syf
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                  #78
                  Originally posted by Doctor_Tenma
                  How come Alexander's clinching wasn't effective against Matthysse, Kotelnik, Bradley and Porter? Stop making excuses man.
                  He was out of shape and contemplating retirement for that fight. Thats not an excuse thats point of fact.

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                  • fight_professor
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                    #79
                    I'm a Maidana fan - he's clearly not a bum.

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                      #80
                      Originally posted by B-Bomber

                      Broner got his arse beaten in a soundly fashion, and showed that Maidana hurts you more through accumulation than by a one big punch.
                      A first round knock down is not through "Accumulation".

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