Is Mayweather saving Pacquiao for last?

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  • LHRH89
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    #31
    On paper and probably in reality this fight goes 9-3 unanimous dec. In mayweathers favor, but for floyd at this point pacquiao still presents too many variables to take that risk and make a fight. Floyd doesn't need to fight pac. His 30+ million guarantee will be there for each of his remaining fights. The only way floyd fights pacquiao is if the best version of pacquiao doesnt have enough to surprise him in the ring, and right now the chances a mentally/physically capable pacquiao showing up on fight night are very possible and good enough to give floyd problems.

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    • SlySlickSmooth
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      #32
      Mayweather beating Pacquiao now would do less to enhance the TBE legacy, had them two fought years ago he would very much be in the talks as TBE.

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      • Marvellous1
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        #33
        I thought we'd see the end of this after Roach's candid and honest interview. He stated:

        HIS team scuppered the first and only real negotiations over the blood testing.

        BOB ARUM wanted Mayweather as Pacquiao's last fight.

        Mayweather is by no means clean in this with his shenanigans. Why people can't accept what came from the horses- no, 'roach's mouth, I don't know. Almost like admitting what he said would blow their tiny minds. Some people seriously just need to grow up and move on.

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        • 4Corners
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          #34
          Manny ****ed everything up initially, and Floyd ****ed it up the 2nd time even though he probably had a point, but then Arum made his side look ridiculous with talks about cuts and stadiums.

          That's how I see it.

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          • assiong
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            #35
            Originally posted by 4Corners
            Manny is the only guy, along with Arum probably even more so, who ****ed things up in 2010 and never even agreed to do any type of testing until 2012. At that point, Floyd changing his stance on the 50-50 split wasn't a good move by him. It hindered the fight from happening. But at the same time, even had a split been agreed to, Manny and Arum were talking about not being ready to fight in May because of cuts and stadiums not being ready (the ****???). Arum even went as far to say that if Floyd isn't fighting in May anymore because of his legal situation, then they would be open to fighting Marquez on Cinco De Mayo. But then when Floyd was cleared, it became June all of a sudden again. And when examining the split, Manny probably never deserved a 50-50 split at any other point aside from early 2010 coming off 1.25M buys with Cotto. By the time Floyd did the same buys with Ortiz and out sold him with Mosley, and doing bigger gates with common opposition, Manny didn't deserve 50% probably. Still doesn't change Floyd hindered the fight from happening by changing tune on the split.
            What's also funny though is Manny never agreed to take less money until AFTER signing another fight, as seen with Pac-JMM 4. Then Pac was KO'd,
            effectively killing the hype for the fight instantly. Now some of the hype has been reopened since Manny just beat Bradley who was #3 P4P, in pretty good
            fashion. But once again, we have this whole Showtime/HBO dynamic where it's nearly impossible to make the fight.
            It should be noted that people claim Manny shouldn't have to cave to Floyd's demands for the fight......but when they really were 50-50 fighters in terms of
            drawing power and status in the sport, Floyd gave in to nearly every single demand of Manny's. Smaller ring, 1 million dollar penalties for missing weight,
            glove size, ring entrance, even offering a 14 day cutoff for testing initially. But now when Floyd is universally seen as the bigger draw and has all the power,
            Manny shouldn't give in to Floyd's demands to get the fight???
            That's the most honest way to look at this.
            Look, you are still on the blame game, BOTH guys/camps are to blame for the failed previous negotiations. I get it, some of the guys here get it as well. We are talking about NOW, before these two retires. But I, as a boxing fan wants to see who is better than the two while they both have it. Manny already comply with each demands except leave TR. Manny is a loyal person, he always is and always will. So, like you said, Floyd is the número UNO, what he wants, he gets right? So, why not tell Arum and vise versanto make this fight happen? HE the BOSS. Everyone already bow down to his demands (except the Snake). **** if he truly wants to shut everyones mouth who da best is, tell Richie and Al, call PAC and Roach don't include Arum and lay out a more reasonable offer. If PAC disagree then, I will say manny dont want any of Floyd.

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            • Pago007
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              #36
              No version of Pac was ever a threat too Floyd, counter punching negates his offebse see Bradley fights n Jmm
              Pac was no where near 70punches per round
              Pac gonna play cat n mouse with Floyn and lose

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              • Marvellous1
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                #37
                Originally posted by assiong
                Look, you are still on the blame game, BOTH guys/camps are to blame for the failed previous negotiations. I get it, some of the guys here get it as well. We are talking about NOW, before these two retires. But I, as a boxing fan wants to see who is better than the two while they both have it. Manny already comply with each demands except leave TR. Manny is a loyal person, he always is and always will. So, like you said, Floyd is the número UNO, what he wants, he gets right? So, why not tell Arum and vise versanto make this fight happen? HE the BOSS. Everyone already bow down to his demands (except the Snake). **** if he truly wants to shut everyones mouth who da best is, tell Richie and Al, call PAC and Roach don't include Arum and lay out a more reasonable offer. If PAC disagree then, I will say manny dont want any of Floyd.
                Dude, as a fan, I wish Mayweather would stop being such a diva where Aru m is concerned, but considering their history and what Arum has resorted to (begging fans not to buy fights), I don't see it happening. If Pacquiao re-signs before exploring that opportunity as a free agent (like Cotto did), it doesn't look good.

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                • assiong
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                  #38
                  Originally posted by LHRH89
                  On paper and probably in reality this fight goes 9-3 unanimous dec. In mayweathers favor, but for floyd at this point pacquiao still presents too many variables to take that risk and make a fight. Floyd doesn't need to fight pac. His 30+ million guarantee will be there for each of his remaining fights. The only way floyd fights pacquiao is if the best version of pacquiao doesnt have enough to surprise him in the ring, and right now the chances a mentally/physically capable pacquiao showing up on fight night are very possible and good enough to give floyd problems.
                  So which is which? Floyd scared and still ducking or he don't have to fight him coz like you said, he makes 30 mil each fight? What about US true boxing fans who contributes for that $30 mil? Don't we deserve to find out what these two boxer/fighter made of against each other? Idk about you, but I want to see who really is the better boxer/fighter so we can stop this silly assumptions, and back and forth bickering nonsense.

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                  • assiong
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                    #39
                    Originally posted by Marvellous1
                    Dude, as a fan, I wish Mayweather would stop being such a diva where Aru m is concerned, but considering their history and what Arum has resorted to (begging fans not to buy fights), I don't see it happening. If Pacquiao re-signs before exploring that opportunity as a free agent (like Cotto did), it doesn't look good.
                    That's what I'm trying to say before PAC sign an extension, call him up after calling Roach. I'm sure Roach wants this fight to happen so as Manny, so right there is the best time to make an offer. A fair reasonable offer. I'm pretty sure Richie and Al will devise a smart way (and legal) to make the fight happen without Arum in the picture. Heck, if Al can take some of the boxers from their previous Manager and promoter, I'm sure he smart enough to make Manny and Roach agree, right?
                    Last edited by assiong; 04-22-2014, 04:05 PM.

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                    • mrlopez
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                      #40
                      its not gonna happen

                      if floyd is all about the money, the fight SHOULD have already happened 4/5/6 years ago when it WOULDVE made the most money and sense.....

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