What does it say about Calzaghe that fans give him credit for Hopkins's achievements?

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Still the punchstats was widely in favor of the slapper:


Total Punches Jabs Power Punches
Hopkins 127 / 468 11 / 93 116 / 375
27% 12% 31%
Calzaghe 232 / 707 45 / 224 187 / 483
33% 20% 39%


http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/vi...s-joe-calzaghe


Aggression is a scoring criteria.

Pinning somebody on the ropes is not a scoring criteria in itself.


Yeah. He slapped a lot. He did that for all of his later fights. Somehow the judges felt they where telling punches though.

punch stats were wrong. that's a fact. slow motion analysis proved this. do you think the world is flat because at first some people said it was flat. the difference is people changed their mind when they found out it wasn't flat. calzaghe fans found out the truth and still pretend which reveals their bias or they simply don't believe facts which is probably even funnier.

aggression is not a scoring criteria. its effective aggression and since calzaghe wasn't able to pin hopkins down or land on him while coming forward he wasn't effective. calzaghe fans always say he won because he was coming forward and he was pressing the fight which means diddly squat. was he landing punches? no. was he taking punches? yes. so how was he winning? because he had the confidence to keep coming forward despite being outlanded and because he had the confidence to keep throwing even if he didn't land? i think calzaghe was screaming during the fight "pay no attention to the man behind the curtain!" he tricked you plain and simple.

whether it's a slap or a punch if it doens't land it's not telling.

[illmaticfighter]

calzaghe fans have to be the worst in the sport.

they support him but slander other fighters for doing the same thing ala andre ward ,ward can't fight at home but isn't that all calzaghe ever did?

froch is ten times the fighter he was

[Skip Bayless]

calzaghe win over bernard is very underrated. bhops achievements since his loss prove that. calzaghe is a very good fighter who makes adjustments in the ring and has great stamina. he would be very hard to beat in any era

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punch stats were wrong. that's a fact. slow motion analysis proved this.

Holy shit, you guys are starting to sound like prime pactards now

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yeah facts are so re-tarded! ignorance rules! spouting numbers that are clearly wrong is the way to go.

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for your information the slow motion analysis wasn't done for me or people that thought hopkins won. it was for dumb/blind people that kept saying calzaghe landed 230 punches and outlanded hopkins. both these things were debunked but oh well compgod says otherwise.

[soul_survivor]

It does speak volumes.

It's also extremely ******ed.

What's even more so is when the question is beckoned "why does Taylor's legacy enhance every time Hopkins wins?"

The TS replies with "Taylor was knocked by Pavlik and Abraham"

What the hell does that matter?

Oh come on, I don't expect this **** from you.

Taylor was a slightly above average boxer who squeaked past Hops and barely had a title run, fighting faded names as best the could.

Calzaghe is the greatest SMW ever and has names like Kessler, Bika, Lacy and a few others on his ledger, some of these names are still relevant fighters to this day.

****, Americans still pissed hahhaahahaha Mostly African Americans I believe.

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some of you guys would make great scientists. should we actually do research and break down what happened? nah let's just go with what someone thought happened. because every good scientist knows simply thinking something is true must make it empirically true!

a "hypothetical" question for anyone who thinks calzaghe won. what if their was an accurate compubox done that proved hopkins outlanded calzaghe by far and in a majority of the rounds? would you actually change your mind on who won or would you still think calzaghe deserved to win based on other factors? please answer loyal scientists.

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Oh come on, I don't expect this **** from you.

Taylor was a slightly above average boxer who squeaked past Hops and barely had a title run, fighting faded names as best the could.

Calzaghe is the greatest SMW ever and has names like Kessler, Bika, Lacy and a few others on his ledger, some of these names are still relevant fighters to this day.

****, Americans still pissed hahhaahahaha Mostly African Americans I believe.

did you miss the irony when you were writing this post?

[soul_survivor]

did you miss the irony when you were writing this post?

who did Taylor beat convincingly who was as good as Mikkel Kessler? A fighter who still relevant today.

Heck, Bika even has a championship belt now and is regarded as Wards second or 3rd best win.

The irony is only in your mind.

Calzaghe was a champion at two weights, a reign that in total lasted over 10 years...how long was Taylor champion for? How many times was Calzaghe stopped? How many times did Calzaghe get beat by an out of shape alcoholic?