Comments Thread For: All Access: Mayweather Wants To Go Down As Best Ever

[MurkaMan]

Willie Pep says "hello" (Kevin Hart's voice)

Oh yeah. Can we give Rigo the nod for soon to be GOAT in that regard since his compubox numbers/defense are just about on par.

If Rigo where Floyd size, he could change his entire fighting style for each of Floyd's 45 foes, and not get hissed? Willie Pep could? HELL FK NAH!! GTFO with that mess. And Rigo cant even fight on the inside.

[4Corners]

Those are just numbers but with no analysis on the opponent.
You said that Marquez was #2 P4P ...... REALLY?
What if Floyd, who is #1 P4P, and he said is TBE, moves up to face Andre Ward. How much credit can we give Ward for winning on UD?
ANSWER: "It was expected win" type of credit.


Show me how many fights that Floyd took that were risky and that he was the underdog? You will see that that list will shrink DRAMATICALLY! You are not showing us the truth instead what you are doing is trying to hide the truth with those misleading numbers (AKA Marquez #2 P4P example)

If Floyd fighting P4P fighters and Top ranked guys in his weight classes isn't taking risks......then who does "take risks"???

Marquez wasn't legit at all when Floyd fought him.....but when marquez turned around and KO'd your boy at the same weight.....well a little bit of credit should be given at this point.

Marquez was #2 P4P technically at that point.

[JDD1]

he still had an opportunity to fight pac even when pac did accept drug testing...and he could even have dropped the demand when pac didn't want to initially do full random........

what happened to the "and yes pac you're next" and then going around soon after saying he never said pac was next?

he can't call himself the greatest ever when he didn't prove himself against a prime pac.....that's just the truth

Pac refused to prove himself against a prime floyd. Roach has admitted it, maybe you should accept it. To hold that against floyd shows an incredible amount of bias on your behalf.

He can call himself whatever he wishses. Doesn't mean I or you have to agree.

The main takeaway is Manny did EXACTLY what ODH, shane and cotto did-wait to fight floyd, most likely because they knew they would lose. Can't really fault ODH as he was the top star and floyd was in a nother weight class and was not a big draw. The others, no reason not to fight.

[JDD1]

if he wanted to go down as the best ever then he should have fought and beaten a prime pac.....

http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=635363

[TonitosWay]

Name a fighter in history that can fight all of Floyd's "cherrypicks" and NOT KO them, not destroy them, but change their entire fighting style and dominate each without getting hissed by a single punch. Floyd doesnt even change his facial expression. He's a magician. He doesnt have the best resume tbh, but skill for skill NO fighter in history was this sharp. This is the BEST fighter in the history of the sport. Who can face his foes and do what he does? It will never EVER happen in boxing again.

Willie Pep says "hello" (Kevin Hart's voice)

Oh yeah. Can we give Rigo the nod for soon to be GOAT in that regard since his compubox numbers/defense are just about on par.

[JDD1]

Floyd's material is pretty stale and he will not give any access to his sparring because he feels like it would help his opponent. I don't understand that level of paranoia but people who are truly great tend to be insular and paranoid.

The best part about this episode was we got to see true floyd when he and his dad were talking about Broner he says "I just do that partying for the TV show but I'm training" and had some good points about Broner making ****s and how that wont fly when you step up in competition. then his dad follows with you can't talk your way through this.

Floyd, his father and his uncle have so much boxing experience that they really could use it to elevate the "boxing intellect" of the average TV viewer. It would be nice if they went away from selling the lifestyle and sold the sport.

[Bullrush]

Not gonna happen. In order to be considered the best ever he needs somebody to challenge him and get the most out of him. Ali had Frazier. Sugar Ray had Duran and so on. Klitschko sits in that same boat, he doesn't have anybody to fight. Just like Floyd he'll be one of the best, just not the best.

[Spoon23]

Not really. Its pretty simple.
A person that wants to be the best ever will try to fight the best guys in the sport. The person that never wants to lose on the other hand fights boxers that due to quality/style/age dont present that much of a threat. You cant have it both ways.
Floyd has claimed time and again that he's all about making the most money with the least possible risk, so there's really nothing to get pissed about when Floyd admits so himself. Then again, its up to each one to be ****** enough to believe that's compatible in any way with a boxer that win or lose always tries to fight the best.

Well put bud. This Floyd minions should realize they can't forever be a sheep. They should stand up and call out Floyd for the pussay he really is.

[FerFAL]

you guy's are so angry lol

Not really. Its pretty simple.
A person that wants to be the best ever will try to fight the best guys in the sport. The person that never wants to lose on the other hand fights boxers that due to quality/style/age dont present that much of a threat. You cant have it both ways.
Floyd has claimed time and again that he's all about making the most money with the least possible risk, so there's really nothing to get pissed about when Floyd admits so himself. Then again, its up to each one to be ****** enough to believe that's compatible in any way with a boxer that win or lose always tries to fight the best.

[Bronx2245]

I would not have favored Floyd over Sergio Martinez but that was not my point. How about Andre Ward (see Marquez comparison below)?

Let's clarify it for you. Include all fights where Floyd is not favored to win by a comfortable margin. As I pointed out, relatively riskier fights.

Manny and Sergio Martinez were very risky fights for Floyd. He had the opportunity but didn't fight them. I can name others.

If Floyd goes up to 160, he would not be favored against the top fighters ..... but I'm sure that he would go for it if the right cherry were available for the pickings.


The guy was bringing up Marquez to validate Floyd's resume. That's like Floyd going up to fight Andre Ward and then trying to give high credit to Andre Ward for beating up Floyd just because he was #1 P4P and considers himself TBE!

Floyd DID walk away from Martinez and Paul Williams. Arum fu@ked up the Cotto thing, but Floyd gave Cotto (and Marquez) a shot when he freed himself from Arum. Floyd DID NOT walk away from Manny. Manny walked away from Floyd twice for some BS (neddles, stadiums, etc.). I really blame Arum more than Manny, but it's not Floyd's fault that he hasn't fought Manny.