Comments Thread For: All Access: Mayweather Wants To Go Down As Best Ever

[MurkaMan]

Rigondeaux is sharper and he is fighting today. Whats that mean for the rest of boxing history. Pernell was Sharper. Hopkins is smarter.

GTFO!!!LOL. Rigo got hurt by bums and he is NOT a complete fighter. He has no offense and can only fight on the outside, throwing only 300 punches against Nonito. Floyd is something WAAAY different and more multiimensional. He stood in the pocket with Canelo who was 165lbs, didnt get grazed once. Threw 500 punches. Bernard looks up to Floyd and will NEVER be the perfect fighter.

If Rigo and Bernard where Floyd size, they can change their entire fighting style for Floyd's opponent and not get hissed? Pernell could? He got tagged by all sorts of bums, with his flashy "bob & weave, showboat for the audience" defense. Floyd is all business. You better quit telling those lies about those GREAT fighters being anything like Floyd. Floyd is a once in a lifetime athlete.

[jcpryor]

He never fought Manny,Margarito,Williams or Cotto until way way later so I guess we'll never know..

He aged right along with them, didn't he? Or does Floyd age slower than regular humans?

[KnickTillDeaTh]

Those are just numbers but with no analysis on the opponent.
You said that Marquez was #2 P4P ...... REALLY?
What if Floyd, who is #1 P4P, and he said is TBE, moves up to face Andre Ward. How much credit can we give Ward for winning on UD?
ANSWER: "It was expected win" type of credit.


Show me how many fights that Floyd took that were risky and that he was the underdog? You will see that that list will shrink DRAMATICALLY! You are not showing us the truth instead what you are doing is trying to hide the truth with those misleading numbers (AKA Marquez #2 P4P example)

Thats a funny question. So Floyd is to blame because hes never the under dog? Let me let you in on a little secret. If Mayweather and pac fight, Mayweather would be favored. If Mayweather Martinez fight, Mayweather would be favored. If Mayweather GGG fight, Mayweather would be favored. If Hopkins was dumb enough to drain himself to meet Mayweather, Mayweather would be favored. As a matter of fact plug in any name VS. Mayweather under 160 and Mayweather would be favored. I mean if you really think about it how many other fighters can make that same claim?

[ADP02]

Thats a funny question. So Floyd is to blame because hes never the under dog? Let me let you in on a little secret. If Mayweather and pac fight, Mayweather would be favored. If Mayweather Martinez fight, Mayweather would be favored. If Mayweather GGG fight, Mayweather would be favored. If Hopkins was dumb enough to drain himself to meet Mayweather, Mayweather would be favored. As a matter of fact plug in any name VS. Mayweather under 160 and Mayweather would be favored. I mean if you really think about it how many other fighters can make that same claim?

I would not have favored Floyd over Sergio Martinez but that was not my point. How about Andre Ward (see Marquez comparison below)?

Let's clarify it for you. Include all fights where Floyd is not favored to win by a comfortable margin. As I pointed out, relatively riskier fights.

Manny and Sergio Martinez were very risky fights for Floyd. He had the opportunity but didn't fight them. I can name others.

If Floyd goes up to 160, he would not be favored against the top fighters ..... but I'm sure that he would go for it if the right cherry were available for the pickings.


The guy was bringing up Marquez to validate Floyd's resume. That's like Floyd going up to fight Andre Ward and then trying to give high credit to Andre Ward for beating up Floyd just because he was #1 P4P and considers himself TBE!

[Bronx2245]

I would not have favored Floyd over Sergio Martinez but that was not my point. How about Andre Ward (see Marquez comparison below)?

Let's clarify it for you. Include all fights where Floyd is not favored to win by a comfortable margin. As I pointed out, relatively riskier fights.

Manny and Sergio Martinez were very risky fights for Floyd. He had the opportunity but didn't fight them. I can name others.

If Floyd goes up to 160, he would not be favored against the top fighters ..... but I'm sure that he would go for it if the right cherry were available for the pickings.


The guy was bringing up Marquez to validate Floyd's resume. That's like Floyd going up to fight Andre Ward and then trying to give high credit to Andre Ward for beating up Floyd just because he was #1 P4P and considers himself TBE!

Floyd DID walk away from Martinez and Paul Williams. Arum fu@ked up the Cotto thing, but Floyd gave Cotto (and Marquez) a shot when he freed himself from Arum. Floyd DID NOT walk away from Manny. Manny walked away from Floyd twice for some BS (neddles, stadiums, etc.). I really blame Arum more than Manny, but it's not Floyd's fault that he hasn't fought Manny.

[FerFAL]

you guy's are so angry lol

Not really. Its pretty simple.
A person that wants to be the best ever will try to fight the best guys in the sport. The person that never wants to lose on the other hand fights boxers that due to quality/style/age dont present that much of a threat. You cant have it both ways.
Floyd has claimed time and again that he's all about making the most money with the least possible risk, so there's really nothing to get pissed about when Floyd admits so himself. Then again, its up to each one to be ****** enough to believe that's compatible in any way with a boxer that win or lose always tries to fight the best.

[Spoon23]

Not really. Its pretty simple.
A person that wants to be the best ever will try to fight the best guys in the sport. The person that never wants to lose on the other hand fights boxers that due to quality/style/age dont present that much of a threat. You cant have it both ways.
Floyd has claimed time and again that he's all about making the most money with the least possible risk, so there's really nothing to get pissed about when Floyd admits so himself. Then again, its up to each one to be ****** enough to believe that's compatible in any way with a boxer that win or lose always tries to fight the best.

Well put bud. This Floyd minions should realize they can't forever be a sheep. They should stand up and call out Floyd for the pussay he really is.

[Bullrush]

Not gonna happen. In order to be considered the best ever he needs somebody to challenge him and get the most out of him. Ali had Frazier. Sugar Ray had Duran and so on. Klitschko sits in that same boat, he doesn't have anybody to fight. Just like Floyd he'll be one of the best, just not the best.

[JDD1]

Floyd's material is pretty stale and he will not give any access to his sparring because he feels like it would help his opponent. I don't understand that level of paranoia but people who are truly great tend to be insular and paranoid.

The best part about this episode was we got to see true floyd when he and his dad were talking about Broner he says "I just do that partying for the TV show but I'm training" and had some good points about Broner making ****s and how that wont fly when you step up in competition. then his dad follows with you can't talk your way through this.

Floyd, his father and his uncle have so much boxing experience that they really could use it to elevate the "boxing intellect" of the average TV viewer. It would be nice if they went away from selling the lifestyle and sold the sport.

[TonitosWay]

Name a fighter in history that can fight all of Floyd's "cherrypicks" and NOT KO them, not destroy them, but change their entire fighting style and dominate each without getting hissed by a single punch. Floyd doesnt even change his facial expression. He's a magician. He doesnt have the best resume tbh, but skill for skill NO fighter in history was this sharp. This is the BEST fighter in the history of the sport. Who can face his foes and do what he does? It will never EVER happen in boxing again.

Willie Pep says "hello" (Kevin Hart's voice)

Oh yeah. Can we give Rigo the nod for soon to be GOAT in that regard since his compubox numbers/defense are just about on par.