Roach admits it was pacquiao's fault the mayweather fight never happened...

[Dirk Diggler UK]

Because there was potentially a lot of money involved, and he seems quite interested in making the fight happen. Also, the key thing is that he has great business partners on his side now (unlike most of the Top Rank days). So with Haymon on his side, he could be confident that a great deal would be struck and he wouldn't get ripped off, cheated, etc.

He already had Haymon.....

[radioraheem]

I wonder if it would be an acceptable excuse if Pacquiao suddenly said he didn't want to deal with Richard Schaefer.

You just want to argue just for the sake of arguing. It is acceptable for BOTH parties to be reluctant and/or uninterested to return to the negotiating table after the first round failed.

[radioraheem]

He already had Haymon.....

Did you even read what I said? For most of his Top Rank days, Haymon did not exist on his side.

[JLBlades]

Yes, he did say that interest in the fight isn't like it was 2 years ago. But he DID NOT say that Floyd didn't want the fight back then.

I guess i'm little guilty of what I was saying.

What was Roach saying at around 6:00, "I'm sure 2 years ago mayweather wouldn't want to fight"?
I think I heard that and it got stuck in my head.
Not quite sure what he meant by that tho.

[Dirk Diggler UK]

You just want to argue just for the sake of arguing. It is acceptable for BOTH parties to be reluctant and/or uninterested to return to the negotiating table after the first round failed.

Why? I don't think it is. Negotiations can often fall down but there should be a willingness from both sides to bend a little especially when there's so much money involved.

To me it seems Pacquaio kept bending and Mayweather kept putting up more obstacles.

Did you even read what I said? For most of his Top Rank days, Haymon did not exist on his side.

So what does that have to do with anything? We're not talking about his Top Rank days.

[V.WEBB]

Yeah sure. Just like the only road block was the testing. All the way through, you'd have idiots on here (you were likely one of them) saying "if you da best, take da test". There were even T-shirts made ffs!

Then Pacquaio agreed and another roadblock popped up out of nowhere (money). Then another one popped up (Arum). So you mean to tell me that something else wouldn't have come up?

Sure.

How was it a roadblock when Manny and his team agreed to it with no problems? There's was an article that ran which outlined that testing would be done for the fight. Days later there's outrage from Manny and his camp. What does that insinuate? And what other time are you talking about Manny " agreeing"? What did he agree to? Who did he agree with?

I don't remember saying that Bob Arum was trying his hardest to get the fight done. He obviously wasn't. He was happy to keep milking Pacquaio against lesser opponents. A loss against Mayweather would have killed Pacquaio's momentum.

That still doesn't explain why Mayweather was going to deal with Arum before but not now. Try to explain that one instead of answering in a childish "I know you are but what am I?" way.

They haven't wanted to deal with each other since that happened if you pay attention. Hell Arum has stated on a various occasions that he would never sit down with GBP to even attempt to make the fight. So hmmmm, let's see. The feelings seems to be mutual between the two since the first failed attempt. But if you keep up, that shouldn't come as a surprise.

You're emotional invested in Floyd Mayweather. I can understand why you get all flustered and think that everyone is against you. That's the kind of feminine traits that have become associated with his hardcore fanbase.

Flustered? Kid please.

[V.WEBB]

I wonder if it would be an acceptable excuse if Pacquiao suddenly said he didn't want to deal with Richard Schaefer.

Right. Given his terrible past, break up, and animosity with Richard Schaefer.

[Dirk Diggler UK]

Right. Given his terrible past, break up, and animosity with Richard Schaefer.

LOL....so emotional. Old wounds never heal. His heart was broken once and he didn't want that again.

All that existed in the first round of negoations and the second and however many others but now in 2013/14, suddenly Bob Arum was the problem ALL along

Sure.

[radioraheem]

Why? I don't think it is. Negotiations can often fall down but there should be a willingness from both sides to bend a little especially when there's so much money involved.

To me it seems Pacquaio kept bending and Mayweather kept putting up more obstacles.

So what does that have to do with anything? We're not talking about his Top Rank days.

It is acceptable because the first negotiations FAILED. So it's very understandable why either side will be reluctant and/or uninterested to return to the negotiating table again. It's common sense and it happens in business quite often. You don't always get a second shot in business.

I do agree that because there is so much money potentially involved, both sides should be willing to come back to the table. But it seems both sides equally have been uninterested, or very reluctant, to really negotiate the fight. Even Freddie Roach admitted this much in the video.

Freddie Roach: Fighters fight to me. Fighters will fight anybody. It's not like fighters are scared. I think it's a lot to do, especially a couple years ago, a lot had to do with Golden Boy and Top Rank. And just not wanting to work together. I remember when Don King and Bob Arum were the big guys, and they hated each other, but they still promoted fights. But I don't know why these two companies can't because the pool for fighters is getting much smaller, because there's two separate pools. If they don't start crossing over, there won't be no fights, good fights.

[maguirre]

Wow. Flotards are all over the place talking about sport cleaning. Their idols are getting caught left and right taking peds and they still have nerves to talk about sport cleaning. Their main idol has been roiding for god knows how long and they still want to talk about sport cleaning. These people have no shame. hehe...