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  • Nay_Sayer
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    #41
    Originally posted by Cuban Linx
    Marquez is coming off a lose too.... Losses matter don't they?
    Yes. Pacquiao's loss to Marquez stands out more so than Marquez' loss to Bradley.

    Again, loses matter and I can't see ranking Pacquiao ahead of a guy who just sent him into extended plank time.

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    • Augustane
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      #42
      Originally posted by Nay_Sayer
      Here's a better question; When was the last time Ward or Martinez was two fights removed from getting KTFO?
      You're the one who posted up his p4p list to be criticized. You're also the one who started this topic. Answer the question; or do you not have an answer?

      If past fights and resume don't matter, why do you rank inactive fighters so highly on your p4p list?

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      • straightleft
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        #43
        Originally posted by Nay_Sayer
        Yes, and Pacquiao's last loss came at the hands of Marquez. Yes, it was two years ago, but other than Bradley - exactly what has Pacquiao done in those two years?

        Like I said, it's difficult to rate Pacquiao ahead of Marquez due to KTFO6.
        Ko or decision is doesn't matter because lost is a lost but why the hell Marquez was still in your top 4 p4p when he just lost his last fight recently? Care to explain?

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        • Nay_Sayer
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          #44
          Originally posted by - Righteous -
          Think about it, when was the last time Pacquiao was legitimately knocked down? And it came from Marquez? The 38 year old lightweight who just hired the most infamous P.E.D expert in the world.
          A suspect as Marquez may appear WRT PED use, Pacquiao looks 100 times more suspect. Do we need to go back to 2009 and discuss the Mayweather negotiations?

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            #45
            Originally posted by Nay_Sayer
            Yes. Pacquiao's loss to Marquez stands out more so than Marquez' loss to Bradley.

            Again, loses matter and I can't see ranking Pacquiao ahead of a guy who just sent him into extended plank time.
            pac was number 1 or 2 b4 marquez koed him
            and he was messing up marquez b4 the one punch ko landed

            that ko only sent him down to top 5-7
            beating bradley whos top 3 should be enough to send him back to where he belong

            not floyd nor ward has fought anyone inside top 5 p4p for the past 3 years and u put them in ur top 5 list

            ur funny

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            • Nay_Sayer
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              #46
              Originally posted by straightleft
              Ko or decision is doesn't matter because lost is a lost
              WRONG.

              KO's are more convicing wins than decisions - in most instances - and that certainly applies here. Marquez' KO victory over Pacquiao is more impressive than Pacquiao's UD over Bradley.
              Last edited by Nay_Sayer; 04-15-2014, 03:18 AM.

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              • Nay_Sayer
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                #47
                Originally posted by DoubleLeftH00k
                not floyd nor ward has fought anyone inside top 5 p4p for the past 3 years and u put them in ur top 5 list

                ur funny
                When was the last time Mayweather, Ward, Rigo, Martinez or Marquez was *two* fights removed from being KTFO?

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                • Nay_Sayer
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                  #48
                  Originally posted by Augustane
                  If past fights and resume don't matter, why do you rank inactive fighters so highly on your p4p list?
                  If we're not going to rank inactive fighters then where did you have Pacquiao ranked P4P before Saturday night? Why?

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                  • jtommy
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                    #49
                    Originally posted by - Righteous -
                    I have him at number 2

                    Andre Ward has never beat a Top 5 PFP fighter.

                    I can't put him above mayweather at this point because I think he would beat Pacquiao.

                    We'll never know as long as Floyd keeps avoiding this fight.
                    Thinking and actually doing the damn thing is two separate things. Pac should be #1 especially since he's beaten everybody he faced since 1999 and has the better resume. Based off reality here. Not what you think will happen. Your rewarding the coward here cong****!
                    Last edited by jtommy; 04-15-2014, 03:19 AM.

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                    • hypodermical
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                      #50
                      Originally posted by Nay_Sayer
                      Yes, and Pacquiao's last loss came at the hands of Marquez. Yes, it was two years ago, but other than Bradley - exactly what has Pacquiao done in those two years?

                      Like I said, it's difficult to rate Pacquiao ahead of Marquez due to KTFO6.
                      just stop bro.
                      your logic, or lack there of, is full of holes and i don think you get what the p4p list is all about.

                      theres a triangle situation here, Pac beat Bradley in 2012 and got robbed, JMM got a come from behind one punch KO against Pac, Bradley convincingly outboxed JMM, then most recently Pac convincingly beat Bradley.

                      Outside the triangle, Bradley barely survives Provodnikov and Pac humiliated Rios, who is a young hard hitting brawler, with only one loss and is 10 pounds bigger.

                      So how can you put JMM above both Bradley and Pac, when he had ONE shining moment, the ONE PUNCH KO, which he desperately needed since he was on his way to a TKO loss?

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