Floyd has to stop with saying Pac has to leave Arum/ESPN 98.7

[Evol]

Don't purposely post an incorrect perception of the tone of my post to try and negate the point I made. You know what happened. Manny would be leaving for a better opportunity as well.

Frankly, with all due respect, you don't have a leg to stand on. You have no problem with this as a business practice as evident from our previous discussion.

You are criticizing it now because its FLoyd in his role as promoter and Manny is the opponent. That is crazy biased on your part my man.

Just say I don't think Manny should have to leave TR and be done with it.

u didnt name me the fighters that had to leave gbp to get a fight with manny?? so u rather have floyd play games than to get in the ring and whip on manny?? so if floyd hates arum why is he trying to be like arum then? LOL.. and go pull up my post regarding this issue, i've been saying it plenty of times, why should manny have to leave arum to get a fight with floyd?? i dont have any problems saying that, did u think i would? LOL

[mourinho1]

bob didnt make them do anything. they left because there was better opportunity for them there. why do u make it sound like bob had a gun to their head or something? can u name me a fighter that fought manny who has to leave gbp first? and if they did they i guess gbp wasnt paying them enough form them to leave.

A lot of this sound dumb but maybe i'm missing something here...
Whats up with these fighters(

canelo, ortiz, guerrero, maidana

) arent they GBP fighters? were they with TR??? where do you wanna go with this, i dont understand. I think the general consensus is that there are two sides now and at each side there is a lot of inhouse fighting going on NOW.

But out of the top of my head a recent RELEVANT fighter who was forced to STAY with TR to fight manny was Bradley. This year his contract would end and uncle BOB forced him to extend otherwise he couldnt fight manny!!!!!!
Out of Bradley camp you can also hear that he wont have an option to have co-promotional fights. They are all the same, with pretty much the same demands when push comes to shove. Arum also vague suggested Amir to stop doing business with GBP...

Bottomline there are no good guys in this game!!! Pacman should wait with resigning post 2014 and than he can make the best choice what is best for him. That way he is doing his fanboys a favour. Not by fighting for free :-)

[Evol]

A lot of this sound dumb but maybe i'm missing something here...
Whats up with these fighters( ) arent they GBP fighters? were they with TR??? where do you wanna go with this, i dont understand. I think the general consensus is that there are two sides now and at each side there is a lot of inhouse fighting going on NOW.

But out of the top of my head a recent RELEVANT fighter who was forced to STAY with TR to fight manny was Bradley. This year his contract would end and uncle BOB forced him to extend otherwise he couldnt fight manny!!!!!!
Out of Bradley camp you can also hear that he wont have an option to have co-promotional fights. They are all the same, with pretty much the same demands when push comes to shove. Arum also vague suggested Amir to stop doing business with GBP...

Bottomline there are no good guys in this game!!! Pacman should wait with resigning post 2014 and than he can make the best choice what is best for him. That way he is doing his fanboys a favour. Not by fighting for free :-)

can u show me where bradley was force to stay with TR in order to get a rematch with manny?? and why would bradley care if he gets the rematch with manny or not, bradley has the belt at the time. i dont think bradley is being force to do anything he doesnt want too.

[tyger]

I find it funny the some people actually believe Mayweather really would fight Pacquiao if he left Arum. Another hoop to jump through, another excuse.

[Evol]

for the same reasons hatton and ODH didn't have to.

We had this discussion already. we can go back and forth if you want to waste time. Its simple-if it was ok for Bob to make those guys sign with TR after leaving/severing ties with GBP as a condition of getting a fight with Manny, then its ok for floyd in his role as promoter to ask Manny do the same, regardless of how much Manny earns or if he is TR's #1 fighter.

If you don't think Manny should have to leave TR, fine, just say so.

u hate bob so much but now floyd is acting like bob jr and u're fine with this? LOL!!

[MGMGRAND]

It's crazy but its not the first time a boxer refused to work with a cetain promotor.

Alot of fighters refused to work with Don King in the 90's due to issues.
Also lets be real.

If the only issue is Mayweather, they why aren't Danny Garicia, Broner, Guerrero, Maidana not fighting Top Rank fighters, is Mayweather their boss as well?

Thats because it's bigger than Mayweather and has always been.

[JDD1]

u didnt name me the fighters that had to leave gbp to get a fight with manny?? so u rather have floyd play games than to get in the ring and whip on manny?? so if floyd hates arum why is he trying to be like arum then? LOL.. and go pull up my post regarding this issue, i've been saying it plenty of times, why should manny have to leave arum to get a fight with floyd?? i dont have any problems saying that, did u think i would? LOL

SHane ahd to sever ties with GBP, JMM left GBP. you know this but are trying to use a technicality to make an argument against Manny leaving TR. That isn't valid.

I didn't say anything like that but you are asking simply because you dpon't have a valid way to refute the points I've been making in this thread.

Thats a silly, childish question. He is copying a TR business practice most likely because it is profitable-that would be my best guess.

If you don't think manny should leave, I'm ok with that. But you are NOT against other fighters doing it. As such, to complain when Manny is asked to do it and not others is biased as hell on your part.

WHy should he leave-because it will make the fight easier to make, same as it was with the other guys.

[mourinho1]

quick question, floyd is his own boss correct?? floyd is not tied to gbp correct? so why does pac needs to leave arum and TR but canelo didnt, oritz didnt, guerrero didnt, the list goes on.. can somebody fill me in on this??

FMJ=own bos??
answer= NO that is how he likes to profile himself. Espinoza said he has an exclusive showtime contract. talk is cheap i believe in contracts. I do however feel he has a lot of power within the limits of the contract.
FMJ=tied to GBP
answer= i do believe he is a GBP fighter, i could be wrong tho'. That means he has to respect the agreement he has with GBP. Everyone can see that he also has extreme power at goldenboy, look at how he beefs with oscar de la hoya.

[Evol]

SHane ahd to sever ties with GBP, JMM left GBP. you know this but are trying to use a technicality to make an argument against Manny leaving TR. That isn't valid.

I didn't say anything like that but you are asking simply because you dpon't have a valid way to refute the points I've been making in this thread.

Thats a silly, childish question. He is copying a TR business practice most likely because it is profitable-that would be my best guess.

If you don't think manny should leave, I'm ok with that. But you are NOT against other fighters doing it. As such, to complain when Manny is asked to do it and not others is biased as hell on your part.

WHy should he leave-because it will make the fight easier to make, same as it was with the other guys.

shane and mqruez didnt leave gbp for manny, they left because they wanted too! why do u keep using this as an excuse?? so u dont like bob but floyd is acting like bob jr but now u're ok with it? how is leaving arum means the fight will be easier to make? i thought the only issue before was ost which manny agreed to it now. so please explain how it will be easier to make the fight without arum? oh u mean so floyd will make more money if arum is not involved?? why not just say it then LOL..

[mourinho1]

can u show me where bradley was force to stay with TR in order to get a rematch with manny?? and why would bradley care if he gets the rematch with manny or not, bradley has the belt at the time. i dont think bradley is being force to do anything he doesnt want too.

THX for asking :-)

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