How far does Pac move up in the ATG list after last Sat?

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  • Puˇgiˇlist
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    #41
    I asked people before the Rios fight about this

    Talk about anything boxing related here. Where the boxing discussion is always Non Stop!


    Pacquiao is more than half way there!!!

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    • Xi_
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      #42
      Originally posted by RAV3N
      Canelo was 24 when he fought Floyd and in boxing terms that is young and inexperienced especially when taking on someone as good as Floyd.

      I did say that Hatton was a good win.

      Im just saying that he should be fighting people that are in their prime and have a style to challenge him.

      Dont get me wrong, im a floyd fan as well but I see through his bs.
      oh come on bro, when was floyd suppose to fight canelo? canelo had all the tools(weight advantage, good jab/body attack, power and age) to give 36 yr old floyd issues, he had just beat trout, and the fight was buzzing like never before(people thought floyd was ducking canelo) the only * about that fight was that it was at a catchweight. there is always an excuse after the fight. you're saying that he should be fighting prime fighters and i've given you examples.

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      • RAV3N
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        #43
        Originally posted by Isaac Clarke
        You didn't mention ducking. You said losses mean nothing but they do. Any loss takes something away from a resume even if avenged like Lewis did. People still talk about Rahman and McCall beating him don't they? Marciano hasn't a great win but is an ATG because he has a 0. You're talking out of your ass saying losses don't affect a resume. If you just stuck to ducking affecting it you'd be right.
        Well if Ali was to have a 0 he would had to of ducked all the people who gave him losses, there was no other way he could have done it.

        Marciano's biggest wins were over fighters in decline and he dominated his weight division but you chose the only atg with a 0 to base your argument on.

        Maybe we should elevate sven ottke to an ATG too since he has a 0.

        I have more respect for a fighter who fights the best even if they lose.

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        • Shad0wB0xer
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          #44
          When you look at Pac's entire career, he's definitely top 20. Bradley was nothing special IMO. He's 1-3 in his last 4 fights in my book. Pac schooled him twice, went life and death with Ruslan and squeaked out a close decision against an aging warrior in Warquez.

          Those of you that had Bradley p4p #3 need to WTFU.

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            #45
            morales - atg 83
            pac - 73
            marquez - 76
            barrera - 88

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            • RAV3N
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              #46
              Originally posted by Xi_
              oh come on bro, when was floyd suppose to fight canelo? canelo had all the tools(weight advantage, good jab/body attack, power and age) to give 36 yr old floyd issues, he had just beat trout, and the fight was buzzing like never before(people thought floyd was ducking canelo) the only * about that fight was that it was at a catchweight. there is always an excuse after the fight. you're saying that he should be fighting prime fighters and i've given you examples.
              Canelo is slow on his feet and has a low punch output, 2 things that Mayweather loves.

              I will have to disagree with Canelo been in his prime, I think that he will be a much better boxer when he is 29 and early 30s.

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              • MrTambourineMan
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                #47
                Originally posted by Brandish
                morales - atg 83
                pac - 73
                marquez - 76
                barrera - 88
                You are a fool and a Bullshitter.

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                • Xi_
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                  #48
                  Originally posted by RAV3N
                  Canelo is slow on his feet and has a low punch output, 2 things that Mayweather loves.

                  I will have to disagree with Canelo been in his prime, I think that he will be a much better boxer when he is 29 and early 30s.
                  lets just agree to disagree, good debate though man, you made a lot of good points...i think the lara fight will tell us a lot......if canelo beats lara, then the canelo win enhances, i don't think anyone can deny that.
                  Last edited by Xi_; 04-14-2014, 09:22 PM.

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                  • Pacquiao'd
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                    #49
                    he doesnt, he already beat bradley the first time

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                    • mathed
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                      #50
                      Originally posted by Xi_
                      Bradley was p4p #3 and right behind floyd at ww. this is a big win imo....there are just a lot of bradley haters on nsb.
                      I think he should be number 2, Floyd 1

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