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  • #51
    Originally posted by Cinci Champ View Post
    he did? i honestly thought his power was lacking
    i thought the same about lack of power.
    plus bradley has a good chin.

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    • #52
      Originally posted by Le samouraï View Post
      Another Marquez fight, fúck. I honestly hope Alvarado wins just to see him in with someone new.
      Me too. I'd prefer Pac-Alvarado to another Marquez fight.

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      • #53
        Hope Roach gives Pacauiao RIGHT ADVICE. RETIRE or think of future.

        He more than anyone knows.

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        • #54
          You Clowns Think The Power Was Missing But You Weren't Taking The Punches

          Bradley didn't run out of gas for being out of shape. He ran out of gas for the body shots he was taking from Manny. Roach is setting a trap for Mayweather. He's playing down Manny's effort to lure Floyd in for a fight thinking Manny has nothing left. When Manny was destroying everyone from Hatton to Margarito, to Cotto, to Mosley, Floyd wanted no part of Pacquiao. Hang trusted getting in the ring since. Mosley would rather fight Marquez, Ortiz, Cotto, Guererro, Canelo, Maidana, before he dare fight Manny. He wanted to fight Devon Alexander of all people before he tore a bicep muscle. He wanted to fight none other than Amir Khan-job before boxing fans railed him in backlash for considering such a shot fighter. Still won't fight Manny, and Freddie is doing all he can to lure in Floyd.

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          • #55
            i would seriously wish death on bob arum if he ever tries to make a pac vs marquez 5. i mean what's the point? if pacquiao just defeats marquez via decision which is obvious outcome it will just be a waste of pacquiao's time. that knock the **** out he got can never be topped. that rivalry is done. i hope marquez won't take it just to give arum a big **** you!. **** you bob arum in advance.

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            • #56
              Freddie Roach just told you guys he's not ready to make a fight with Floyd.

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              • #57
                Originally posted by radioraheem View Post
                I think the Alex Ariza produced Pacquaio is different from the one without Ariza. This second fight, Pacquaio clearly wasn't as dominant as the first fight. Especially in the beginning. I don't think Pacquaio was over trained. Bradley even lifted Pacquaio off his feet and he nearly fell, off one punch. And Bradley is no power puncher that is known to knockdown guys.

                I mean, look at Amir Khan. It's the same scenario. With Ariza, Khan was a beast, could floor guys with one punch whether it's to the body or head, and could take numerous hard punches and not hit the canvas once. But the Khan without Ariza? He goes down easily. It's going to be comical when he fights Collazo.

                Ariza was a key ingredient to both these guys stellar performances.
                Ariza focuses a lot on the core and leg muscles which is where manny gets a lot of his power. Just looking at his calves I can tell he didnt do as many leg workouts as he did before and his upper body was a little bigger then in the rios fight. But going off the whole fight he didnt gas out so I think he was in great condition with extra leg work and plyometrics he can get the power back but I dont think Ariza will ever work with manny again.

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                • #58
                  Originally posted by radioraheem View Post
                  I think the Alex Ariza produced Pacquaio is different from the one without Ariza. This second fight, Pacquaio clearly wasn't as dominant as the first fight. Especially in the beginning. I don't think Pacquaio was over trained. Bradley even lifted Pacquaio off his feet and he nearly fell, off one punch. And Bradley is no power puncher that is known to knockdown guys.

                  I mean, look at Amir Khan. It's the same scenario. With Ariza, Khan was a beast, could floor guys with one punch whether it's to the body or head, and could take numerous hard punches and not hit the canvas once. But the Khan without Ariza? He goes down easily. It's going to be comical when he fights Collazo.

                  Ariza was a key ingredient to both these guys stellar performances.


                  You give S&C coaches way too much credit. Ariza is NOT the solution in any way shape or form. A good Boxing trainer that knows his fighters strengths and weakness coupled with motivational skills to bring those talents out is far more vital than a S&C coach. Look to men like Cus, Angelo etc etc.....they built Champions on the merit of Boxing NOT strength and conditioning. Last - yes it's important but it's not the key element.

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                  • #59
                    TIM was a better fighter/boxer than last time,he came with TONS OF CONFIDENCE because his victory in a WAR FIGHT OF THE YEAR over PROVODNIKOV and a great victory over JMM;this time MANNY had the undeafeted N°3 P4P in the WORLD in front of him AND HE BEAT HIM 9 rounds to 3 rounds....HHHHHHHHHAAAAAAATTTTTTTTTTEEEEEEEERRRRRR RRSSSSSSSSSSS !!!! BRADLEY IS NOT MAIDANA !!!!

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                    • #60
                      Don't be too hard on him Freddie. Tim is a very skilled fighter. Remember, that he was not ranked the #3 P4P fighter in the world for nothing, The man could fight.

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