Does the Pacquiao we saw last night beat Marquez in a 5th fight?

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  • Big_L
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    #11
    this is a really hard fight for pacquiao to win. jmm was always the better boxer but pacquiao always had the power. now jmm seems to have the power edge too.

    this will be the fight we really see where pacquiao is at. he knows what marquez is capable of doing to him. the fact that bradley was able to hurt him doesn't bode well for him.

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    • bojangles1987
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      #12
      I don't think so. I think Marquez has a stranglehold on this matchup, and Pac would be too hesitant.

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      • US Dirk Killer
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        #13
        PAC is abused by jmm. Manny looked more vulnerable in that fight

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        • FrankieClutch
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          #14
          Originally posted by -=Shade=-
          I don't really need to see a 5th Pac vs JMM fight, but if it happens, and it is Pac's next fight or the one after, Pac wins. I'll even go one further, and say without a hint of irony or troll that he'll get a KO between the 5th and 10th round. That prediction is as much about where JMM is as it is about Pacquiao. JMM should just worry about Alverado for now. Alverado is like a Rios but with more craft and adaptibilty, and that doesn't necessarily favour an aging counterpuncher as much as some people around here seem to think (unless Alverado was ruined from his wars with Rios and Provodnikov).
          Bold prediction. Any particular reason you feel that way?

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          • FrankieClutch
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            #15
            Originally posted by Big_L
            this is a really hard fight for pacquiao to win. jmm was always the better boxer but pacquiao always had the power. now jmm seems to have the power edge too.

            this will be the fight we really see where pacquiao is at. he knows what marquez is capable of doing to him. the fact that bradley was able to hurt him doesn't bode well for him.
            And this is exactly why I want to see the fight. We will truly see how much Pac has left in the tank

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            • SouthpawJames
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              #16
              Pacquiao won't get overconfident and lunge into a right hand like he did the last time. I would favor Pacquiao in a 5th fight for this reason, if and when he hurts Marquez don't expect any urgency for a KO, but a beating that will stretch out into the later rounds.

              Pacquiao by late round TKO.

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              • Ratchet
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                #17
                I don't think so. I don't think Pac is confident in his chin yet. The punches that Bradley landed seemed to really bother him. I'm used to Pac getting hit with a big shot, pounding on his chin and coming back even harder. Last night, he was cautious. It's not that bad though, I guess. He's not going to be running face first into punches anymore.

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                • Picazo
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                  #18
                  If Pac comes out like he did last night hes gonna risk more than a loss. Marquez win by KO early like last time but it all depends on which Pac shows up.

                  That being said I dont think Pacquiao can stop Marquez.

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                  • -=Shade=-
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by FrankieClutch
                    Bold prediction. Any particular reason you feel that way?
                    Just because of how dire I think his situation *ACTUALLY* was when he did score that KO vs Pac, how he looked in there vs Bradley (with no reason to fear Bradley's power), and quite simply his age. Given the age gap I just think he's falling off quite a bit faster than Pac. I also think Pac is taking way too long to get into war mode when he gets in the ring these days (though he still does pretty well before he's 'on'). I suspect Pac will be very wary of a KO shot, but he'll still grind JMM down and take him out without getting desperate for the KO.

                    Basically, I think JMM is at the non-linear decline point of his career, and masking it well(ish).

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                    • Skip Bayless
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                      #20
                      marquez is going to lose to alvarado so it doesnt matter

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