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  • #51
    Originally posted by GOD-FR33 View Post
    Because he is a hero and Legend to so many people. Hey, when odds are being determined, most of the time people go with their hearts, not their heads. That is why he was the favorite.
    Erm no they don't.

    The bookmakers under no circumstances determine their odds with their hearts.

    This is a business with money at stake.

    He was the favourite because he was expected to win.

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    • #52
      Originally posted by bojangles1987 View Post
      Wow, you're actually trying to argue that Murat and Cloud are better than Bradley twice and Rios. Rios is a hell of a lot better than Cloud ever was, and who the **** is Murat? And LMAO at Hopkins beating Dawson.

      I don't know who you're trying to fool with the Locche avatar, but it's not working.
      First Pacquaio - Bradley fight, Bradley was coming up in weight(powder puncher), Rios coming off loss and coming up in weight, knockout out cold by slow old Marquez. Despite the fact they aren't popular they are still legit and not moved up the ranking without doing the hardwork, Cloud was champion at 175 in his twenties, Karo Murat ranked top ten, Bernard is now fighting another champion with punching power in a unification match, he doesn't have a name too. You seem to take popularity over skills as a determining factor for ranking P4P, which is your perogative but is not the true concept behind it.

      Bernard never been planking I can tell you that and Pacquiao need to learn a thing or three from Niccolino. However you guys are having butterflies for fighters instead of a discerning eye for skill.

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      • #53
        Originally posted by Shambrolic View Post
        First Pacquaio - Bradley fight, Bradley was coming up in weight(powder puncher), Rios coming off loss and coming up in weight, knockout out cold by slow old Marquez. Despite the fact they aren't popular they are still legit and not moved up the ranking without doing the hardwork, Cloud was champion at 175 in his twenties, Karo Murat ranked top ten, Bernard is now fighting another champion with punching power in a unification match, he doesn't have a name too. You seem to take popularity over skills as a determining factor for ranking P4P, which is your perogative but is not the true concept behind it.

        Bernard never been planking I can tell you that and Pacquiao need to learn a thing or three from Niccolino. However you guys are having butterflies for fighters instead of a discerning eye for skill.
        Cloud shouldn't have been "Champion" because he got dominated by Campillo and Campillo got robbed.

        Murat is terrible, got dominated by Nathan Cleverly. Had no business at all being in the Top 10.

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        • #54
          No Roman Gonzalez ?


          1. Mayweather
          2. Ward
          3. Rigondeaux
          4. Pacquiao
          5. Martinez
          6. Klitschko
          7. Bradley
          8. Marquez
          9. Roman Gonzales
          10. Carl Froch

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          • #55
            A case for top 5. I just don't see how he should shoot up the rankings though with a W against a guy he' had already beaten

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            • #56
              1, Chickenweather
              2, Pacquiao
              3, Wladimir Klitschko
              4, Timothy Bradley
              5, JMM
              6, Andre Ward
              7, Bernard Hopkins
              8, Sergio Martinez
              9, Canelo Alvarez
              10, Erislandy Lara

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              • #57
                Originally posted by IronDanHamza View Post
                Cloud shouldn't have been "Champion" because he got dominated by Campillo and Campillo got robbed.

                Murat is terrible, got dominated by Nathan Cleverly. Had no business at all being in the Top 10.
                Rios got out outboxed by Abril and outboxed by Alvarado in the fight before Pacquiao. Rios is super overrated, he is not hard to figure out, he easier to spell out than "shit". Pacquiao got left for dead by an old Marquez.. C'mon this alone is not better than Bernard's resume and overall Bernard has the better resume and superior skills.

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                • #58
                  Mayweather
                  Ward
                  Pacquiao
                  Bradley
                  Marquez

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                  • #59
                    Originally posted by Pain~Lucy View Post
                    I know p4p is just an opinion but how can someone put manny on #7 #8 or even at #5! that's absurd!!!!!
                    How can anyone have Ward at number 2 ahead of Bradley?
                    Bradley has much better wins on his resume than Ward does and has been more active looking to fight all challengers whilst Ward looks to pick the easy route...

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                    • #60
                      Originally posted by Shambrolic View Post
                      Rios got out outboxed by Abril and outboxed by Alvarado in the fight before Pacquiao. Rios is super overrated, he is not hard to figure out, he easier to spell out than "shit". Pacquiao got left for dead by an old Marquez.. C'mon this alone is not better than Bernard's resume and overall Bernard has the better resume and superior skills.
                      Rios is poor aswell but Tavouris Cloud is no better and probably worse really.

                      Pacquaio got knocked out by Marquez yes, a P4P fighter. Bad loss I agree.

                      Hopkins got outboxed by Chad Dawson.

                      There's no doubt Pacquaio's work of recent is better than Hopkins of recent. It's unquestionable.
                      Last edited by IronDanHamza; 04-14-2014, 09:27 AM.

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