Joel Diaz: "African-American fighters don't get the credit they deserve"

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  • junior gong
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    #61
    Originally posted by Holywarrior
    as a white dude watching this sport for a long time, i agree. just look at all the great fighters that never got title shots.

    yet guys like Lamotta, Fullmer and Zale and graziano traded the titles back and forth, and holman williams, eddie booker and charley burley never got the chances they deserve.
    Thats incorrect. Boxing was very different back then and run mostly by the mob. Its just silly to compare that era to today. AA fighters are respected and revered the world over. Sugar Ray Leonard is universally loved, as is george foreman and even Mike Tyson is given a lot of love even though he's a convicted sex case.

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    • Holywarrior
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      #62
      Originally posted by junior gong
      Thats incorrect. Boxing was very different back then and run mostly by the mob. Its just silly to compare that era to today. AA fighters are respected and revered the world over. Sugar Ray Leonard is universally loved, as is george foreman and even Mike Tyson is given a lot of love even though he's a convicted sex case.
      Ray Leonard actually received quite a bit of hate in his prime. People dogged him for "running" against Duran, and they said he was ducking Hearns even before he had the chance to make the fight happen. He is loved NOW but when the events took place he received as much hate as he did love.

      Listing off 10 popular black fighters doesn't nearly make up enough for the generations of great fighters that didn't get their shot.

      Tunney wouldn't even spar black fighters let alone fight them
      Last edited by Holywarrior; 04-11-2014, 09:35 AM.

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      • .:: JSFD26 ::.
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        #63
        [quote=Rome-By-Ko] Quote:

        Originally Posted by HWChampion

        My friend nobody is discrediting TB cause of his skin colour. If they were every single African American fighter in history would be discredited. Muhammad Ali would not be considered by some the greatest, SRR would not be considered the GOAT etc. so to say something ridiculous like that is ridiculous. You make it seem as though we live in an era where the coloured belt is still around. Lol you need to relax, and smoke a joint mate.

        Muhammad Ali was not consider that in the moment and got plenty of hate while he was actually a fighter..Joe Lewis as well..SRR as well..The reason most of these guy's are consider some of the greatest is cause of what they went threw because of the color of their skin..Now I'm not saying I believe Mayweather or Bradley get treated a certain way cause of their skin..I have notice they get treated differently tho,Bradley cause I believe his style is a hard one to understand..He also does not score KO's which does not lend it self to being very popular..Mayweather cause of his attitude when he was younger(I actually think May has gotten so much better in this department)and him being undefeated really get's to people for some reason..

        Oh and if you don't believe racism and bigotry still are very prevalent in this time your bugging.. [/quotLmao

        God you're fkin delusional. You really think this is about racism don't you? Lmao

        "They're considered the best cause of what they went thru."


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        • Reginald Ledoux
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          #64
          Oh here we go

          Stfu Joel

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          • Cleto_Reyes
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            #65
            bradley will get respect he deserves after pacquiao pummels him to submission

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            • Dirk Diggler UK
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              #66
              People say a lot of things about a lot of fighters. Everyone gets criticised nowadays because more people have an outlet to express themselves.

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              • junior gong
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                #67
                Originally posted by Holywarrior
                Ray Leonard actually received quite a bit of hate in his prime. People dogged him for "running" against Duran, and they said he was ducking Hearns even before he had the chance to make the fight happen. He is loved NOW but when the events took place he received as much hate as he did love.

                Listing off 10 popular black fighters doesn't nearly make up enough for the generations of great fighters that didn't get their shot.

                Tunney wouldn't even spar black fighters let alone fight them
                Like I said, the world is a different place today and thats why on this occasion Senor Diaz is talking out of his arse.

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                • WilkinsOlajuwon
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                  #68
                  Everyone needs to calm down. Diaz is just doing his part to sell the fight.

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                  • Dinamita 03
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                    #69
                    Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK
                    People say a lot of things about a lot of fighters. Everyone gets criticised nowadays because more people have an outlet to express themselves.
                    Exactly all boxers get criticized and denied the full credit thy deserve. Don't narrow it down to one race. Every type of fighter has a stereotype because of their race.

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                    • Reginald Ledoux
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                      #70
                      Originally posted by Cleto_Reyes
                      bradley will get respect he deserves after pacquiao pummels him to submission
                      Oh I'm saving this one

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