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  • Bronx2245
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    #211
    Originally posted by Rezelby
    Andre Berto (Robert Guerrero) and Adrien Broner (Maidana) are gatekeepers to Floyd fights. If you beat them, you get Floyd fights. Just say that to yourself and then try to tell yourself the same thing that those guys are worthy opponents
    Guerrero beat Berto and Aydin at Welterweight. That's more than Bradley did. Maidana beat Soto Karass and Broner at Welterweight, which is more than Rios did. Marquez got a KO against Manny, but Floyd schooled Marquez. Arum has some nerve talking about Floyd's opponents when his fighters are fighting Jr. Welterweights like Marquez, Rios, and Provodnikov. Floyd is beating Welterweight and Jr. Middleweights CHAMPIONS.

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    • Evol
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      #212
      wait, so all this time when pac was fighting in vegas, it wasnt at the MGM grand??? i thought he fought there plenty of times before? i guess i dont know shiiet about boxing then LOL!

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      • Weebler I
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        #213
        Originally posted by Bronx2245
        What did Bradley do to make you feel he's better than Guerrero? Do you think Bradley beat Manny?
        Well he's had more than 2 fights at Welterweight for a start, against better opponents than Aydin and Berto. No, I don't think Bradley beat Pacquiao, but rightly or wrongly you know he's currently sitting PFP #3 on most lists? Guerrero is nowhere to be seen, a ghost if you like.

        Cotto did a much better job against Floyd than Marquez. Remember, Cotto was only 143 for Manny (4lb. Catchweight). The point is that Floyd has been fighting much better opponents than Manny. Bradley has not proven anything other than he can take a punch. If he beats Manny, then he can talk, but not now.
        Marquez was stepping up two weight classes, but it's not accurate to measure against just one opponent, you have to look at their whole careers. Both great fighters imo, I have them roughly equal.

        Cotto was 145lbs for Pacquiao iirc, not 143lbs.

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        • ADP02
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          #214
          Originally posted by Bronx2245
          Guerrero beat Berto and Aydin at Welterweight. That's more than Bradley did. Maidana beat Soto Karass and Broner at Welterweight, which is more than Rios did. Marquez got a KO against Manny, but Floyd schooled Marquez. Arum has some nerve talking about Floyd's opponents when his fighters are fighting Jr. Welterweights like Marquez, Rios, and Provodnikov. Floyd is beating Welterweight and Jr. Middleweights CHAMPIONS.
          Arum is right and you are wrong!

          When we bring up names where Floyd is not heavily favored, all I keep hearing from Floyd fans is that Floyd isn't obligated to fight anyone he doesn't want but now Floyd fans like you are trying to defend his latest cherry picked fights.

          Guerrero was nowhere to be seen at 140 nor 147 until he fought Aydin but Guerrero looked very average in that fight. Guess what?
          Aydin is now fighting at 140 not 147.
          Berto? Anyone with a good punch can beat Berto because he has no defense. Who has he beat that makes you say what you said? All hype man, all hype!

          Bradley: According to Floyd fans, being a top P4P fighter or holding a WW title is very meaningful because that is how Floyd's opponents are always marketed NOT by who they fought at WW
          Discussing this topic like you did, Bradley beat the man that beat Maidana easily. If you forgot, his name is Devon Alexander. Bradley will be fighting Manny twice, Marquez and Abregu at WW . Not too shaby and has a very good JWW resume. If Floyd's opponents had that kind of resume, perhaps people would not be complaining the way they do

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          • Wyvceo
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            #215
            [QUOTE=Deevel916;14408890]Ouch. Shots fired.[/QUOTE

            Like who rios is that a real opponent .....bob you are so full of it... No is made that all his guys dont have a slave mentality like back...that one guy out grown his BS and moved in to be more successful ...actually 2 ...delahoya...did as well...f u bob

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            • ShoulderRoll
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              #216
              Originally posted by Weebler I
              MGM pays $100m in site fees to stage the the FMJ fights so they have to try to make their money back. That's one of the reasons 50 Cent was trying to get Floyd to leave GBP/Haymon in his prison letters, Floyd doesn't see a dime of that money.
              How much site fee money does Pacquiao get to see?

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              • JDD1
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                #217
                Bob is going to take manny back to china or somewhere else because he makes huge money from the casinos over there. He is trying to justify his outsourcing by pretending to be so offended that he is going to leave.

                Just say I'm going because I make more money.

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                • junior gong
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                  #218
                  Originally posted by tyshun30
                  i know right lol but y this fight aint sellin doe?
                  Who gi a *** doe?

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                  • Larry the boss
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                    #219
                    Originally posted by Bronx2245
                    What did Bradley do to make you feel he's better than Guerrero? Do you think Bradley beat Manny? Cotto did a much better job against Floyd than Marquez. Remember, Cotto was only 143 for Manny (4lb. Catchweight). The point is that Floyd has been fighting much better opponents than Manny. Bradley has not proven anything other than he can take a punch. If he beats Manny, then he can talk, but not now.
                    Wow so much wrong with this post

                    1-are you going to even try to argue that Bradley isnt better the the Ghost?? better resume,better skill set and more proven champion

                    2- Cotto and Manny was not at 143 it was at 145

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                    • Intelligent
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                      #220
                      Originally posted by junior gong
                      Who gi a *** doe?
                      Just like a pac-tard when Pac shyt isn't going well nobody cares about numbers! But when Floyd vs Guerrero supposedly flopped at (875,000) everybody was laughing and talking smack.

                      The phucked up thing is that Floyd vs Rob PPV out sold Pac/Rios and Bradley/Marquez combined. Shall I bring up Floyd vs Canelo numbers?

                      Yeah at the end of the day Floyd is #1 haters hate but they still watch... When you are great people will pay and watch. If they Love or hate you they will watch haha

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