Comments Thread For: Roach First Noticed Manny's Compassion With Margarito

[radiotracer]

Margarito fight yes. No compassion in the JMM or Mosley fights though. JMM fought a good fight that seemed to surprise Manny. Most going into that fight wrote off JMM thinking he couldn't deal with a welterweight Manny. I think Manny might have written him off as well. Mosley got hurt early and used movement and just didn't engage. Manny would have likely tried to KO Mosley had he been able to find him. Saying he had compassion for all these guys and that's the reason they went 12 is a discredit to those fighters mentioned.

they didn't fight to win that's the discredit. They were just in a running/turtle mode trying to survive the slaughter

[radiotracer]

It was Shane touching gloves. Manny was hitting them aggressively saying "let's fight". Manny just looked like **** not being able to cut off the ring against a super shot Mosley who simply came to pick up his check. That doesn't equal compassion. It just showed once again manny was lost when movement was involved

you can move all you want but you have to fight to win. He knew better than to engage pac like he tried with mayweather.

[IST-ra-GLEr2]

PAC doesnt have the hunger no more. He is tamed. Past prime and a tad slower these days.

[PowerFlow]

People in the know, have repeatedly said that the margarito fight killed pacs prime. He was in the hospital for days after that fight.

[hypodermical]

marg fight - he fought him as hard as he could til last 2 rounds. anyone with eyes can see he let marg finish the rounds. i don't think pac couldve KO'd him, maybe kd but not KO.

marquez 4 - after that KD in the 2nd round, beast mode pac came out, but got reckless (which is part of beast mode pac), tripped and got caught with a perfect/lucky punch. JMM was in trouble, he and his trainer admitted this.

bradley - odd fight, i still think theres a conspiracy here.

mosley fight - after the KD, mosely just kissed pac's ass and they just sparred for the rest of the fight, minus that one instance when the ref called pac slippin a KD, and Pac went to work to make up for it.

[luisivich]

People in the know, have repeatedly said that the margarito fight killed pacs prime. He was in the hospital for days after that fight.

a liver punch change history. pac could have been greater
hagler says that its hard to wake up in the morning and train when you are sleeping in silk sheets. he got his political career, he got billions and his religion teaches that it is poison to want too much adoration. no reason for pac to fight but you just couldn't walk away to the 20 million per fight. pac just not training that hard. does anyone remember that they use to hit pacs abdominals with a stick- there's none of that now, pac wont stand the pain.

[Evol]

someone mention this a few days ago that i thought was interesting. that person said its not that manny doesnt show or have the killer instinct or aggressiveness anymore, its because manny is more well rounded as a fighter now as compare to his early days. manny just doesnt go in bone rushing throwing 100+ punches per rounds like he used too, now he picks his shot a little more precise and maybe this is why people is saying he lost his hunger, or that he's slowing down but in fact its prolly because he has improved more now?

[nacho daddy]

PAC defiantly was compassionate to marg .
The beating he gave marg was huge and the ref should have stopped it
He stopped throwing punches to look at the ref on several occasions .
That showed true sportsmanship

Marg was a lot bigger the Pacman. Pac looked like a little kid . Pac is a modest decent person and Bradley is big mouth ****** trash who lost 2 fights. Hope Pac does not have any compassion for bradley

[- Ram Raid -]

He's not the messiah. He's a very naughty boy.

[Richard Wadd]

Pac did let up and look at the ref a couple times against margarito. corner should have stopped it.

but after that, you have to look at ring wear, age, and opposition. fighters have to adapt as they get older.

most great fighters that have excelled and have longevity had to adapt their styles.

mosley was fighting defensive, he has always had a tendency to get defenesive when he takes a lot of shots. and pac is not a great ring cutter.

jmm always gives pac hell and pac had him down twice and hurt.

pac may have lost some of the killer instinct but it gets overstated. it's also just him adjusting to age/wear-and-tear and the opponents he's facing. Even Rios admitted he got more defensive and didn't take as many chances as he usually does.