Pac vs Bradley 1 decision really that bad?

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  • smoothsmg
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    #21
    Originally posted by IMDAZED
    Not really. Happens all the time. That's why people study tape in the first place.

    I didn't score it the first time I watched it but I thought Pacquiao won (I did think it was close because I noticed he lost the last few rounds). Next time I scored it I had Bradley winning. And each subsequent time I've watched it.
    Watching it live I also did not score it and was very surprised Bradley won the fight. It seemed as though Manny won the fight. After watching it a 2nd time I saw alot of things and I ended up scoring it 6-5-1 for Bradley. It was a close fight. Bradley did not get enough credit for the jab to the face and stomach, and add on Manny taking 2 minutes to 2:30 off from alot of rounds led me to give Bradley alot of those rounds. Rounds were close, but Bradley slipped and blocked alot of punches like you stated earlier.

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    • IMDAZED
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      #22
      Originally posted by smoothsmg
      Watching it live I also did not score it and was very surprised Bradley won the fight. It seemed as though Manny won the fight. After watching it a 2nd time I saw alot of things and I ended up scoring it 6-5-1 for Bradley. It was a close fight. Bradley did not get enough credit for the jab to the face and stomach, and add on Manny taking 2 minutes to 2:30 off from alot of rounds led me to give Bradley alot of those rounds. Rounds were close, but Bradley slipped and blocked alot of punches like you stated earlier.
      It's perception IMO. Look at the first round -- they gave it to Manny because he landed three big lefts in the last 30 seconds. Well, Bradley landed quite a few shots to the head and body in the first 2:30...plus, none of those lefts Manny landed toward the end of the round were "big" and one or two didn't land. Like that all night long. I wasn't impressed by either performance that night and I feel like it's a fight that could've gone either way. But I just have to roll my eyes when I hear people talking about a 10-2 score, etc.

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      • -PBP-
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        #23
        There's two extremes.

        People that feel it was a 10-2 or 11-1 fight are delusional. And I think its a HUGE stretch to find 7 rounds to give to Bradley.

        I thought 8-4 Pacquiao was the correct score with 7-5 being for Pac being the worst possible score in that fight.

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        • any craic lad?
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          #24
          Scoring the fight a shutout is crap.I had it 8-4 MP and I've watched it a few times

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          • smoothsmg
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            #25
            Originally posted by IMDAZED
            It's perception IMO. Look at the first round -- they gave it to Manny because he landed three big lefts in the last 30 seconds. Well, Bradley landed quite a few shots to the head and body in the first 2:30...plus, none of those lefts Manny landed toward the end of the round were "big" and one or two didn't land. Like that all night long. I wasn't impressed by either performance that night and I feel like it's a fight that could've gone either way. But I just have to roll my eyes when I hear people talking about a 10-2 score, etc.
            Yeah, its hard to give credit to a fighter fighting in 30 second spurts for most of the fight. Bradley touched his stomach ALOT and it got overlooked. Manny let you know Bradley touched his stomach everytime because he would immediately pull down his shorts after the punch landed. The fight was not a very pretty fight, but that has been the case for most of Bradley's career.

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            • djif
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              #26
              Originally posted by any craic lad?
              Scoring the fight a shutout is crap.I had it 8-4 MP
              I had it 9-3. If you rigorously consider the fact that Pac was the champ during counting, you can get straight win 11-1 or 10-2..
              Last edited by djif; 04-09-2014, 09:38 AM.

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              • techliam
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                #27
                Originally posted by PBP
                There's two extremes.

                People that feel it was a 10-2 or 11-1 fight are delusional. And I think its a HUGE stretch to find 7 rounds to give to Bradley.

                I thought 8-4 Pacquiao was the correct score with 7-5 being for Pac being the worst possible score in that fight.
                Agreed 100%

                I think because there's a minority of people who scored this a 115-113 fight for Pacquiao, that people use it to try justify a 115-113 Bradley card. 115-113 Pacquiao, according to most of the people who saw that fight, is a stretch. Considering that, a Bradley win is practically a robbery.

                You literally have to praise to high heavens, every shot Bradley threw and assume they hit, whilst saying Pacquiao landed nothing of significance at all.

                The only posters I see here who actually scored it for Bradley seem to be one of two types - either very pro-Bradley or typically anti-Pacquiao...

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                • John Locke
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                  #28
                  It was a terrible robbery. One of the worst we've seen recently, right up there with Abril vs Rios, Lara vs PWill etc.

                  I scored it 9-3 Pac, but gave Bradley a couple of close rounds just for the sake of it. It was close to a shutout imo.

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                  • any craic lad?
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by djif
                    I had it 9-3. If you rigorously consider the fact that Pac was the champ during counting, you can get straight win 11-1 or 10-2..
                    I hate that personally though a fight is fought with the fists not with reputations I do understand what you are saying though and it happens a lot in boxing.The widest I could have it is like you 9-3 and 7-5 but that was for me being generous too Tim in one off the rounds

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                    • Dr Rumack
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by PBP
                      There's two extremes.

                      People that feel it was a 10-2 or 11-1 fight are delusional. And I think its a HUGE stretch to find 7 rounds to give to Bradley.

                      I thought 8-4 Pacquiao was the correct score with 7-5 being for Pac being the worst possible score in that fight.
                      Originally posted by any craic lad?
                      Scoring the fight a shutout is crap.I had it 8-4 MP and I've watched it a few times
                      This is the correct take on the fight.

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