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  • Originally posted by Wild Apache View Post
    Let me spell it out again. I wasn't talking to (you, I was talking about in general). Furthermore even if the Canelo fight is (dangerous), doesn't mean squat cause Floyd never showed any interest in Lara at all.

    Fight Vargas and get at me?? Not at all, don't remember that. And yes Floyd knew fans wanted him to fight Lara. It's been out there for a while. Floyd was probably more interested in how he could market a Maidana fight. Usually fans want the most competitive fights. Nowadays most have become business men. The kind that concoct ways to accept the wayward ways of their favorite fighters.

    If anyone has a bubble it'd be dat guy that stalks and tries to act like people were ducking him. A poster on BS across the webs huge expanse. That's a "bubble". It's you're life, live it to the fullest I guess. That's talking to you," directly. LOL!!
    Yea you were talking to me, because no one else said the fight shouldnt/may be a bad idea, except ME. In your agenda bubble you just saw things the way you saw them without even reading the thread. To you it was automatically a "Lets not have Floyd fight Lara" thread.

    Floyd didnt even know who Lara was until he signed to fight Marcos, then fans started saying "Why dont you fight Lara?" Why did Floyd only mention Lara NOW? Why didnt he mention him before? Partially because he was/is fighting Ishe who is a Floyd fighter. And btw, NO one knows who Lara is.

    Your one of these fools that give Floyd too much credit; "Look at Floyd pretending to not know who Lara is" He still barely knows who Ghost is, or Canelo. In your head you all create these ideas that Floyd is always plotting when in actuality he may not even be smart enough to even think in that way. And he can duck Lara with or without knowing him.

    Its no secret that he barely even watches boxing, and all the young fighters at TMT are the ones who keep him up to speed with whats going on in the sport. As far as who the young talent is, trainers, fighters. You think Floyd knew who Mikey Garcia was or how good he was? Those TMT fighters get together and have conversations about boxing and they are the ones who keep him up to speed and thats the only reason he gave Mikey a shoutout.

    When Zab fought Khan, after the fight Floyd said fight Vargas and then you can fight me. I believe he said it at the Cotto media day at his gym.

    You say Floyd new fans wanted him to fight Lara, when have fans EVER wanted that fight? NEVER. Not until very recently. Most fans, including boxing figures felt it would be a boring match up. Fans NEVER wanted that fight until very recently when Floyd did the poll and people were saying, "Why didnt he add more fighters to the poll like Thurman, Lara etc"

    All of this stuff is in your agenda bubble. See when I talk about boxing, Im here to talk about boxing. Before you can speak about boxing, you stop and figure out what you can say to be biased for or against this fighter. Or that fighter.

    Stop duckin and dodgin and go to my thread about Floyd's resume. I bet you cant tell me anything regarding it. Read the whole post before commenting so I can smack ya azz up and down the forum. I been waiting, and you knew I was. Yet you been hiding.

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    • Originally posted by Wild Apache View Post
      Let me spell it out again. I wasn't talking to (you, I was talking about in general). Furthermore even if the Canelo fight is (dangerous), doesn't mean squat cause Floyd never showed any interest in Lara at all.

      Fight Vargas and get at me?? Not at all, don't remember that. And yes Floyd knew fans wanted him to fight Lara. It's been out there for a while. Floyd was probably more interested in how he could market a Maidana fight. Usually fans want the most competitive fights. Nowadays most have become business men. The kind that concoct ways to accept the wayward ways of their favorite fighters.

      If anyone has a bubble it'd be dat guy that stalks and tries to act like people were ducking him. A poster on BS across the webs huge expanse. That's a "bubble". It's you're life, live it to the fullest I guess. That's talking to you," directly. LOL!!
      Notice how in YOUR HEAD, fans have been clamoring for a Floyd vs Lara fight for a while. In YOUR HEAD that has been happening. People may have been subconsciously wishing for that fight just to see Floyd's skills tested, but never EVER have anyone been CLAMORING for that fight. I STILL dont see too many people CLAMORING for the fight. Even till this day people feel it will be an ugly match up.

      Thats what you call an agenda bubble. You just completely made it up in your head. I simply feel that the fight would be acceptable just because they can market the fight as a competitive fight more so than an interesting fight worth seeing.

      Do you even love the sport? Or do you just HAVE to go out of your way to prove that your not biased for or against this fighter, that you end up coming across extremely biased against THIS fighter, or THAT fighter. I see thru it all my lil dawg. No beef, nice talk, Tnx.

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      • Canelo struggled vs technicianslike Mayweather and Trout. And Lara hits much harder and has better footwork than those 2 boxers. Annihilation is the word that better defines whats waiting for Canelo if that fight ever gets made.

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        • Originally posted by PureBoxingCEO View Post
          Canelo struggled vs technicianslike Mayweather and Trout. And Lara hits much harder and has better footwork than those 2 boxers. Annihilation is the word that better defines whats waiting for Canelo if that fight ever gets made.
          Canelo didnt struggle with Trout LOL. He beat his behind and outslicked the hell out of him. Lara landed some ugly, slow, pitty pats here and there.

          I dont think Lara has better footwork than Floyd. He runs backwards in a straight line and gets clipped by slow powerless fighters like Perro.
          Lara may use his footwork more OFTEN than Floyd, but Floyd is way more lightfooted than Lara, and he can instinctively pounce to the other side of the ring while momentarily being flatfooted.

          I think Lara may hit harder than Floyd but not enough to walk Canelo down like Floyd. Because Floyd has better technique than Lara. Lara may look too small against Canelo. Canelo is faster than Lara to me. But Lara's moving style gives the illusion that he is fast. He isnt fast at all to me.

          With that being said, I dont know who will win.

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          • Originally posted by MurkaMan View Post
            Yea you were talking to me, because no one else said the fight shouldnt/may be a bad idea, except ME. In your agenda bubble you just saw things the way you saw them without even reading the thread. To you it was automatically a "Lets not have Floyd fight Lara" thread.

            Floyd didnt even know who Lara was until he signed to fight Marcos, then fans started saying "Why dont you fight Lara?" Why did Floyd only mention Lara NOW? Why didnt he mention him before? Partially because he was/is fighting Ishe who is a Floyd fighter. And btw, NO one knows who Lara is.

            Your one of these fools that give Floyd too much credit; "Look at Floyd pretending to not know who Lara is" He still barely knows who Ghost is, or Canelo. In your head you all create these ideas that Floyd is always plotting when in actuality he may not even be smart enough to even think in that way. And he can duck Lara with or without knowing him.

            Its no secret that he barely even watches boxing, and all the young fighters at TMT are the ones who keep him up to speed with whats going on in the sport. As far as who the young talent is, trainers, fighters. You think Floyd knew who Mikey Garcia was or how good he was? Those TMT fighters get together and have conversations about boxing and they are the ones who keep him up to speed and thats the only reason he gave Mikey a shoutout.

            When Zab fought Khan, after the fight Floyd said fight Vargas and then you can fight me. I believe he said it at the Cotto media day at his gym.

            You say Floyd new fans wanted him to fight Lara, when have fans EVER wanted that fight? NEVER. Not until very recently. Most fans, including boxing figures felt it would be a boring match up. Fans NEVER wanted that fight until very recently when Floyd did the poll and people were saying, "Why didnt he add more fighters to the poll like Thurman, Lara etc"

            All of this stuff is in your agenda bubble. See when I talk about boxing, Im here to talk about boxing. Before you can speak about boxing, you stop and figure out what you can say to be biased for or against this fighter. Or that fighter.

            Stop duckin and dodgin and go to my thread about Floyd's resume. I bet you cant tell me anything regarding it. Read the whole post before commenting so I can smack ya azz up and down the forum. I been waiting, and you knew I was. Yet you been hiding.
            Originally posted by MurkaMan View Post
            Notice how in YOUR HEAD, fans have been clamoring for a Floyd vs Lara fight for a while. In YOUR HEAD that has been happening. People may have been subconsciously wishing for that fight just to see Floyd's skills tested, but never EVER have anyone been CLAMORING for that fight. I STILL dont see too many people CLAMORING for the fight. Even till this day people feel it will be an ugly match up.

            Thats what you call an agenda bubble. You just completely made it up in your head. I simply feel that the fight would be acceptable just because they can market the fight as a competitive fight more so than an interesting fight worth seeing.

            Do you even love the sport? Or do you just HAVE to go out of your way to prove that your not biased for or against this fighter, that you end up coming across extremely biased against THIS fighter, or THAT fighter. I see thru it all my lil dawg. No beef, nice talk, Tnx.
            LOL, to quotes and still nothing makes sense. Some guy, e thug is going to say a professional fighter doesn't pay attention to one of his very own divisions. You wanna hear something strange? Floyd knew who Canelo was years ago before Canelo even came stateside. He wanted to fight him years ago.

            Bottom line: Lara/Canelo is a great fight and no Lara should fight Ishe and "Hope" to land Floyd. Floyd fights whoever he wants to and Lara isn't any of those.

            The question is do you love the sport? To even think that a 154lb champ doesn't know who the top fighters in his division are is ****ing ******, period.

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            • Originally posted by Wild Apache View Post
              LOL, to quotes and still nothing makes sense. Some guy, e thug is going to say a professional fighter doesn't pay attention to one of his very own divisions. You wanna hear something strange? Floyd knew who Canelo was years ago before Canelo even came stateside. He wanted to fight him years ago.

              Bottom line: Lara/Canelo is a great fight and no Lara should fight Ishe and "Hope" to land Floyd. Floyd fights whoever he wants to and Lara isn't any of those.

              The question is do you love the sport? To even think that a 154lb champ doesn't know who the top fighters in his division are is ****ing ******, period.
              I know you BADLY want Floyd to have known who these fighters are. But it is what it is. He doesnt even watch boxing and its no secret. He doesnt know who a fighter is until they start making some noise. This is just stuff you create in your head. And guess what Floyd STILL forgets Canelo, and Ghost's name. STILL dont know who they are.

              Floyd does fight whoever he wants to, but in YOUR head Lara isnt any of those. Well how do you know if he barely just learned who DF Lara was? I made a comment about Khan and Jesse Vargas you completely ignored it. Why did you do that Bush? Because it was tied into my point about Lara and Ishe. I spoke about how Floyd would have an incentive to fight him after he destroyed Ishe, you completely ignored it for some reason.

              All this stuff about how Floyd would never fight him, well get out of that Agenda bubble. Give Floyd a chance to duck him first. Maybe he WILL duck him who knows? But he just starting to realize that fans are KIND of interested in that fight, lets see him have no one else to fight, except Lara, and lets see what he says IF that day comes. You act like you dont even want to see the fight.

              I made comments about how you made up lies about people CLAMORING for that fight. I need you to respond to that and explain why you made those lies up.

              And I keep telling you to go to my other thread you keep acting like you didnt hear mae!!

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              • Originally posted by MurkaMan View Post
                I know you BADLY want Floyd to have known who these fighters are. But it is what it is. He doesnt even watch boxing and its no secret. He doesnt know who a fighter is until they start making some noise. This is just stuff you create in your head. And guess what Floyd STILL forgets Canelo, and Ghost's name. STILL dont know who they are.

                Floyd does fight whoever he wants to, but in YOUR head Lara isnt any of those. Well how do you know if he barely just learned who DF Lara was? I made a comment about Khan and Jesse Vargas you completely ignored it. Why did you do that Bush? Because it was tied into my point about Lara and Ishe. I spoke about how Floyd would have an incentive to fight him after he destroyed Ishe, you completely ignored it for some reason.

                All this stuff about how Floyd would never fight him, well get out of that Agenda bubble. Give Floyd a chance to duck him first. Maybe he WILL duck him who knows? But he just starting to realize that fans are KIND of interested in that fight, lets see him have no one else to fight, except Lara, and lets see what he says IF that day comes. You act like you dont even want to see the fight.

                I made comments about how you made up lies about people CLAMORING for that fight. I need you to respond to that and explain why you made those lies up.

                And I keep telling you to go to my other thread you keep acting like you didnt hear mae!!
                Who's Mae? Is she hot!

                2nd, It's not what I want in my head, it's common sense. It would be foolish/****** to assume a champion wouldn't know who the best fighters in his division were. I gave you one example of Floyd knowing before at least 2/3rds of the country who Canelo was. He used to watch Pacman fight ringside when he was in the lower weights. If you didn't know fans wanted to see him fight Lara, then I don't know what to tell you. Most realize Floyd/Maidana is garbage and Khan/Floyd was rumored for months. Then Floyd only had to options to fight and both were trash.

                You want me to look at a tread bring that tread to me. I don't go looking for it cause you say, who are you? The fool who considered it a fact that Floyd could beat SRL? Yeah dat guy. Anyway I will no longer entertain you and your regurgitated nonsense. Go waste another posters time. BTW you're allowed to respond because I won't be entertaining you anymore, good day.

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                • Originally posted by Wild Apache View Post
                  Who's Mae? Is she hot!

                  2nd, It's not what I want in my head, it's common sense. It would be foolish/****** to assume a champion wouldn't know who the best fighters in his division were. I gave you one example of Floyd knowing before at least 2/3rds of the country who Canelo was. He used to watch Pacman fight ringside when he was in the lower weights. If you didn't know fans wanted to see him fight Lara, then I don't know what to tell you. Most realize Floyd/Maidana is garbage and Khan/Floyd was rumored for months. Then Floyd only had to options to fight and both were trash.

                  You want me to look at a tread bring that tread to me. I don't go looking for it cause you say, who are you? The fool who considered it a fact that Floyd could beat SRL? Yeah dat guy. Anyway I will no longer entertain you and your regurgitated nonsense. Go waste another posters time. BTW you're allowed to respond because I won't be entertaining you anymore, good day.
                  So everytime Floyd forgot Pacman's name you accused him of PRETENDING to not know who Pac was? Do you do that with Canelo and Ghost even tho he still dont know them, and still dont remember their names?

                  You keep up with this lie about how people were clamoring for Floyd to fight Lara, I still dont know your purpose for saying that. In the press room after Canelo beat Perro, how many people shouted that they wanted to see Canelo fight Lara? Three people who were with Lara?

                  People BARELY want him to fight Canelo, now Floyd's fanbase is calling for that fight? And Im not going to be fake. I know here on the scene EVERYONE been clamoring for Lara and Canelo, but in that press room crickets. After Floyd walked down Canelo, everyone here was saying how he should fight GGG. I STILL didnt hear anyone really say Lara until around the time Lara beat Trout and it STILL wasnt a loud demand. But when he did the poll everyone said, "Why dont you add more names to the poll like Lara and Thurman"

                  Thats about the ONLY time people really let it be known foreal foreal.
                  And btw, YES Marcos is a garbage fight. Im real I dont have to be biased and push agendas like you bro.

                  And true or false; SRL lost to fighters not HALF as skilled as Floyd? Why would you even lie and say SRL would beat him? If you know Canelo got walked down, its NO WAY you think tall skinny azz SRL is good enough or strong enough for 2013 GRANDPA ww.

                  You tell me to post a link to my thread, then you say your going to run off and not respond. ***** you prolly already saw my thread thats why you even said that shiet. Trynna troll mae again!

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                  • Originally posted by Wild Apache View Post
                    Who's Mae? Is she hot!

                    2nd, It's not what I want in my head, it's common sense. It would be foolish/****** to assume a champion wouldn't know who the best fighters in his division were. I gave you one example of Floyd knowing before at least 2/3rds of the country who Canelo was. He used to watch Pacman fight ringside when he was in the lower weights. If you didn't know fans wanted to see him fight Lara, then I don't know what to tell you. Most realize Floyd/Maidana is garbage and Khan/Floyd was rumored for months. Then Floyd only had to options to fight and both were trash.

                    You want me to look at a tread bring that tread to me. I don't go looking for it cause you say, who are you? The fool who considered it a fact that Floyd could beat SRL? Yeah dat guy. Anyway I will no longer entertain you and your regurgitated nonsense. Go waste another posters time. BTW you're allowed to respond because I won't be entertaining you anymore, good day.
                    Read the thread before commenting unlike how you did on THIS thread. http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=632972

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                    • Originally posted by MurkaMan View Post
                      So everytime Floyd forgot Pacman's name you accused him of PRETENDING to not know who Pac was? Do you do that with Canelo and Ghost even tho he still dont know them, and still dont remember their names?

                      You keep up with this lie about how people were clamoring for Floyd to fight Lara, I still dont know your purpose for saying that. In the press room after Canelo beat Perro, how many people shouted that they wanted to see Canelo fight Lara? Three people who were with Lara?

                      People BARELY want him to fight Canelo, now Floyd's fanbase is calling for that fight? And Im not going to be fake. I know here on the scene EVERYONE been clamoring for Lara and Canelo, but in that press room crickets. After Floyd walked down Canelo, everyone here was saying how he should fight GGG. I STILL didnt hear anyone really say Lara until around the time Lara beat Trout and it STILL wasnt a loud demand. But when he did the poll everyone said, "Why dont you add more names to the poll like Lara and Thurman"

                      Thats about the ONLY time people really let it be known foreal foreal.
                      And btw, YES Marcos is a garbage fight. Im real I dont have to be biased and push agendas like you bro.

                      And true or false; SRL lost to fighters not HALF as skilled as Floyd? Why would you even lie and say SRL would beat him? If you know Canelo got walked down, its NO WAY you think tall skinny azz SRL is good enough or strong enough for 2013 GRANDPA ww.

                      You tell me to post a link to my thread, then you say your going to run off and not respond. ***** you prolly already saw my thread thats why you even said that shiet. Trynna troll mae again!
                      Could you please name those fighters while srl was in his prime?

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