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  • DoktorSleepless
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    #41
    Originally posted by big_james10
    If Michel's account is true, the idea that Stevenson refused to agree to a Kovalev fight even if HBO raised the fee for a Fonfara fight is obviously a PR lie. I said yesterday that Kathy Duva was full of sh.t and I was apparently correct.
    How so? I don't think I see anything in the article that contradicts that, unless I'm missing something.

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    • IMDAZED
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      #42
      Originally posted by DoktorSleepless
      Let me rephrase that. Outside of American television. Kovalev vs Stevenson won't happen without American TV money.
      American TV money as in...HBO?

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      • IMDAZED
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        #43
        Originally posted by DoktorSleepless
        How so? I don't think I see anything in the article that contradicts that, unless I'm missing something.
        I'd be shocked if Boxingscene got their hands on the emails and didn't include something about that caveat. I'd be even more shocked if it was never mentioned in those emails but actually existed. I think you can see where I'm going with this.

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          #44
          Still a duck. Yvonne led diva and her side to think that Stevenson agreed.

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          • HeroBando
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            #45
            Originally posted by JDD1
            At this point can you really trust anything that HBO is saying? Fat Dan even made the point that other than the spokesperson releasing the statement HBO has said nothing-they've let Kathy do all the talking.

            Herschman needs to go. HBO is better than this.
            No it would have been terrible to commit 2m+ to Adonis Fonfara, double so without a guarantee of a Kovalev fight.

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            • Leonard Eller B
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              #46
              facts on facts on facts, facts on facts on facts lmfao i love it

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              • DoktorSleepless
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                #47
                Originally posted by IMDAZED
                American TV money as in...HBO?
                Kovalev can't fight on Showtime, ESPN, or any other American network unless it's on HBO. If he wants to fight in Russia without an American station airing the fight, he can do that.

                The fight won't happen even if in Canada because Stevenson would obviously not accept without premium cable money. And since Kovalev has a contract with HBO, and Stevenson has a contract with Showtime, the fight can't happen.

                Originally posted by IMDAZED
                I'd be shocked if Boxingscene got their hands on the emails and didn't include something about that caveat. I'd be even more shocked if it was never mentioned in those emails but actually existed. I think you can see where I'm going with this.
                I doubt Boxingscene got their hands on every email on the subject matter. Just the select few cherry picked by Micheal to help him make his case.

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                • BIGPOPPAPUMP
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                  #48
                  Originally posted by IMDAZED
                  I'd be shocked if Boxingscene got their hands on the emails and didn't include something about that caveat. I'd be even more shocked if it was never mentioned in those emails but actually existed. I think you can see where I'm going with this.
                  The emails always mention a three fight deal. The Kovalev deal was part of that three fight package and all three fights went hand in hand. We saw nothing were Michel tried to break those fights apart or anything where HBO attempted to do the same. If HBO had raised the fee and Michel agreed, he would in turn be agreeing to a three fight deal. We saw nothing where they wanted a certain fee for Fonfara without agreeing to a multi-fight HBO contract.

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                    #49
                    Originally posted by HeroBando
                    No it would have been terrible to commit 2m+ to Adonis Fonfara, double so without a guarantee of a Kovalev fight.
                    THat has become a minor issue in light of this email.

                    It isn't that HBO did what they felt was best from a business perspective, its that they haven't said anything and let Kathy DUva tell a story they, based on what we read, knew was false. They also tried to "lather up the base" (which are the fans who don't like haymon/floyd) by acting like al haymon made this debacle happen. He didn't.

                    Herschman's being cheap prevented us from seeing this fight. He is trying to cover up for a mistake he made long before Haymon got involved-not signing these guys to a deal last year and foolishly agreeing to give adonis and kovalev another easy setup fight to "build" to a big event.

                    He's incompetent and a liar and is making HBO a minor outfit. Fire him now!!!

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                    • IMDAZED
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                      #50
                      Originally posted by BIGPOPPAPUMP
                      The emails always mention a three fight deal. The Kovalev deal was part of that three fight package and all three fights went hand in hand. We saw nothing were Michel tried to break those fights apart or anything where HBO attempted to do the same. If HBO had raised the fee and Michel agreed, he would in turn be agreeing to a three fight deal. We saw nothing where they wanted a certain fee for Fonfara without agreeing to a multi-fight HBO contract.
                      That's what I thought, thanks for clearing that up. I guess we know what's what now.

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