Poll:What class of fighter is Luis Collazo?

[Boxing Goat]

Collazo is 'world' class because he had a 'world' title belt. Now, if we are talking about elite talents, he is not one and never will be. At the same time, very few fighters have the ability to walk right over him at or around the weight and to me that says a lot. I have a lot of respect for him and besides, he has some cool tatoos , lol.

[.:: JSFD26 ::.]

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Originally Posted by Rome-By-Ko

So you thought Collazo won the Hatton fight??Also have we forgot that,it was Hatton's first fight at WW..LMAO..

The debate wasn't about whether it was Hatton's first fight at WW or not. Or whether Collazo won. To answer your question, Collazo could have been given that decision.

You tried to claim he has a "sparring partner" mentality and he gets discouraged when things aren't going his way. That fight and the Berto fight clearly proves you're wrong. Now you are changing angles to try and cover your BS.

Pretty much this.


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[.:: JSFD26 ::.]

Kid is desperately trying to change the subject

And this.


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[.:: JSFD26 ::.]

Rome it's called momentum. It happens in sports... It doesn't necessarily mean the person is weak minded.

Weak minded = Ortiz who quits after the tough gets going.

Collazo isnt that. He keeps trying. Your theory was proven wrong with the Hatton and Berto fight. End of.


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[Dirk Diggler UK]

Rome it's called momentum. It happens in sports... It doesn't necessarily mean the person is weak minded.

Weak minded = Ortiz who quits after the tough gets going.

Collazo isnt that. He keeps trying. Your theory was proven wrong with the Hatton and Berto fight. End of.

It's one of the dumbest observations I've ever seen from Rome-gets-KOed and that's saying something.

Collazo is a very composed fighter in the ring, never looks ruffled or under any great pressure. Even when Hatton tried to mug him early, he didn't run or hide - stayed in the pocket and picked shots. The guy is very mentally strong from what I've seen.

[IMDAZED]

I wouldn't quite call Collazo elite but he's always been underrated. I think he was at his peak against Hatton (a fight I thought he won and was also robbed of a possible KD) but he looked pretty bad against Mosley and then inactivity, etc. led to uneven performances against the likes of Berto. It's nice to see him rebound and get some recognition. He's got a tough match-up ahead of him, one that will provide the answer to this thread's question.

[Isaac Hunt]

It's Collazo is a very composed fighter in the ring, never looks ruffled or under any great pressure. Even when Hatton tried to mug him early, he didn't run or hide - stayed in the pocket and picked shots. The guy is very mentally strong from what I've seen.

I agree with this. Mentally he is very steady and does not get flustered.His weakness is that he is not genetically physically gifted,he has moderate power and speed so when he gets in trouble he has to feel and work himself back into the frame he does not have the explosive power to blast things round. That is where the sparing partner "impression" comes from.
He is an intelligent crafty fighter that gets the most out of what he has if he was genetically more gifted he would have been a big name because he has everything else.
The upcoming fight with Khan is interesting as they are like opposites. Khan is much more gifted but ****** with dunce level ring IQ and could be a lot better by getting more out of his talent.

[Sugar Adam Ali]

Collazo is a very good fighter, and only top level talents beat him, and beating him isnt easy, he is very composed, very experienced, mentally tough, in good shape..

He never had the hype train behind him so he had to earn everything he got.....

He is on the level of a ghost guerrero, katsidis, nate campbell, chop chop..... Good fighters but just not top level talent

Khan has his work cut out for him, and if khan beats collazo, it will be a very good win for khan and i will give him alot of credit

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Originally Posted by Dirk Diggler UK

It's Collazo is a very composed fighter in the ring, never looks ruffled or under any great pressure. Even when Hatton tried to mug him early, he didn't run or hide - stayed in the pocket and picked shots. The guy is very mentally strong from what I've seen.

I agree with this. Mentally he is very steady and does not get flustered.His weakness is that he is not genetically physically gifted,he has moderate power and speed so when he gets in trouble he has to feel and work himself back into the frame he does not have the explosive power to blast things round. That is where the sparing partner "impression" comes from.
He is an intelligent crafty fighter that gets the most out of what he has if he was genetically more gifted he would have been a big name because he has everything else.
The upcoming fight with Khan is interesting as they are like opposites. Khan is much more gifted but ****** with dunce level ring IQ and could be a lot better by getting more out of his talent.

I agree with you two.


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[Rome-By-Ko]

Rome it's called momentum. It happens in sports... It doesn't necessarily mean the person is weak minded.

Weak minded = Ortiz who quits after the tough gets going.

Collazo isnt that. He keeps trying. Your theory was proven wrong with the Hatton and Berto fight. End of.


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I really think I've been misunderstood here..Let me break this down further..

I never said Collazo was weak minded,I said he has a sparring partner mentality..There is a difference..Collazo needs success,something needs to change within the fight,in order for him to get confidence..The Berto and Hatton fights do prove this..Both Berto and Hatton are beating Collazo pretty clearly early in these fights..Before the is a change,which is both Berto and Hatton have poor conditioning..Letting Collazo now land more and giving him more confidence..Yet this was not the case while both fighters are fresh,Collazo losses to many rds therefor can not win the fight..

It;s not to suggest Collazo is weak minded,or a bad fighter..It's his mentality..I'll give you a good example..Will use Khan(since that's his next opponent),Khan is a better fighter then Collazo cause he does not have this mentality..Khan is confident from the opening bell,he fights as such throughout the fight(unless knockout)..Now Collazo is way smarter then Khan,imo Collazo has the better boxing ability,yet I feel Khan is still the better fighter..Cause he,unlike Collazo can make his own breaks(so to speak)..

Both fights Collazo had success in,was against two fighters known for having suspect conditioning..He came on in both fights mid way through..So was it something he did,or was it the opponent giving him the opening cause of their own deficiencies..

Maybe me saying Collazo is easily discourage was not fair..I do however believe my assessment of Collazo having a sparring partner mentality is still very valid..As seen in all of his fights that were consider to be step ups..He loss,weather close or wide..He was not able to get over the hump,and it's mainly due to him starting slow..Mosley was a different breed then the other two,Mosley would have out classed him no matter what(broke hand or not)..Berto is ****,yet it was his slow start that cost him in this fight as well as his fight against Hatton..He's not mentally weak,yet he is not the most confident fighter and it shows up when it's time for him to step up..Good news is tho,his career is not over yet..He does have another chance..