Paper champions in boxing, lets make a list

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  • Fighting_Pride
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    #31
    bradley is one, marquez is another who never fought for the belt, lara also was given a hand me down,


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    • Grimmer
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      #32
      Cotto has held many paper titles.

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      • MisterHardtop
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        #33
        Originally posted by Xi_
        Pac won his ww title at a cw so was he a paper champ at ww? alvarez proved he was legitimate when he beat trout. floyd BEAT the man at ww which was mosley and hasn't lost since. Pac has lost twice, got a gift vs marquez 3 and has only beat rios since then.
        Pacquiao was moving up to WW having fought Ricky Hatton at LWW, Mayweather was already champion at light-middle, having fought Oscar Dela Hoya and Miguel Cotto, two champions, meeting for the divisional unification should not be held at a catchweight. These are 2 very different scenarios. Men like Armstrong and Loenard had used catchweights in the past but when moving up in weight, not when fighting for a championship they already held.

        Pacquiao has, and you know this as well as I do, lost only once, and that to a wonderfully shocking KO from Marquez. The Bradley fight is the worst decision in boxing since Whitaker v Chavez Sr. Right now, the welterweight division is divided three ways, between Pacquiao, Bradley and of course Mayweather, until Mayweather fights the winner of Pacquiao/Bradley, he can not and should not be crowned the lineal champion or whatever terms are being used these days.

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        • Box-Office
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          #34
          Dont you just love the subjective nature of boxing.

          Even when you have a lineal champ in Martinez, GGG just cant be considered a paper champ. Same with Ward and Froch.

          Paper champ would be Felix Sturm, Robert Steiglitz or Chris John who gets a belt and milk it for an eternity till a Daniel Geale shows up.

          So, having a lineal champion is not just enough its the level of opposition they defended it against.

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          • BennyST
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            #35
            Originally posted by Fighting_Pride
            bradley is one, marquez is another who never fought for the belt, lara also was given a hand me down,


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            Well, that would surely mean Pac also is/was. Why don't you mention that? Pac won his paper title, which Bradley then got by robbery, but then Marquez beat Pac legitimately, which should have been for his title, which means he should be the rightful owner of Pac's real championship. But, you're right, Pac was just a paper titlist so Marquez would have been too. Yes.

            As for Marquez, he lost his last shot at Pac's world title and his fights before that was against the guy who got robbed of that same title, so I'm a bit lost as to any sane reasoning behind your biased douchebaggery.

            He was Lineal, unified at 135 before that, and held a paper title at 140. But he won Pac's title, or lost it if you considered Bradley the rightful holder. Either way, it also makes Pac a paper titlist by your own definition.

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            • Team-Brickhouse
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              #36
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