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  • Holywarrior
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    #21
    Originally posted by Sugar Adam Ali
    Good list but winky has to be on there,, his wins over Shane twice, and Tito, plus getting robbed with a draw vs Taylor, is better than cotto's win over Shane...
    That's fair. I wouldn't call Taylor a robbery though, that fight WAS close and Wright gave away the last round of a close fight. What ya gonna do

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    • check hook
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      #22
      Originally posted by A-Wolf
      The quality of Bernard's wins and Manny's wins versus Floyd's wins are too much for me to ignore. Both are ahead of him since 2000 and on my ATG list. Dude being undefeated means absolutely nothing as far as I'm concerned. Sorry.


      I don't totally disagree, it's not a huge criterion for judging a fighter and it's not why i personally judge him to be the best of this era, though it shouldn't be entirely dismissed either.

      What i think alot of Floyd detractors don't think about is the way Floyd is beating these guys. He is putting in dominant performances losing a round or two every fight against elite, A level and B level fighters. He is dominating the best opposition available and making it look easy, and to me that's the difference.

      I have it:

      1. Floyd

      2. Manny

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      • BoxingGenius27
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        #23
        Originally posted by Holywarrior
        That's fair. I wouldn't call Taylor a robbery though, that fight WAS close and Wright gave away the last round of a close fight. What ya gonna do
        Agreed. I felt Winky won, but it wasn't a robbery

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        • Ganondorf
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          #24
          I like how you tossed Winky in there, Adam. I believe Winky was a vastly under appreciated fighter with a solid defense and great one-two! Good list!

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          • toshmurph
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            #25
            Would take me a long time to really think it out but..

            1. Bernard Hopkins
            2. Floyd Mayweather
            3. Manny Pacquiao

            Followed by, in no particular order

            4. Wladimir Klitschko
            5. Juan Manuel Marquez
            6. Winky Wright/Sergio Martinez
            7. Miguel Cotto
            8. Oscar De La Hoya
            9. Joe Calzaghe
            10. Vitali Klitschko

            I know I've missed some guys, thought about it only for a few mins but **** this is tough!!

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            • daggum
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              #26
              Originally posted by Sugar Adam Ali
              Very true, but inwould pick him to beat everyone below him on the list... His style may not be amazing but he got the results... I think he would shred guys like winky, mosely, cotto, wlad,,,
              It would take a manny Floyd prime Hopkins or jones to beat him
              well i had robin reid beating him but robin reid is pretty amazing!

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              • daggum
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                #27
                Originally posted by Sugar Adam Ali
                Floyd has never been knocked down or out
                And has schooled prime corrales, hatton, jmm, canelo, and has won or defended belts at 130, 135, 140, 147, 154

                He has beaten the absolute best at 130, the best guy at 135, 140 was kinda weak, dominated 147, and has beaten the best 3 guys at the time at 154, and has only had one tough fight vs Castillo... What he has done is amazing
                how do you dominate a division when you never fight the best guy in it? i never understand this logic. well besides the all time great in his prime that he avoided he dominated! all those one win wonders and old guys he fought really proved his greatness.

                oscar was not the best. he was ranked #5. cotto was clearly not the best. just look at his resume. he was ranked #1 but that was a joke and based on popularity. his best win was over the #7 guy and he's #1? how does that work? canelo and lara were the 2 best at the top. i would say lara was better since his resume was much better but golden boy would say canelo was better because he's canelo.
                Last edited by daggum; 03-29-2014, 08:35 AM.

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                • John Locke
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                  #28
                  Floyd was knocked down against Zab, SAA.

                  1. Pac
                  2. BHop
                  3. Floyd

                  I'd say that's the top 3, I'd have to think about the rest of it carefully, cba doing that at the moment.

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                  • Sugar Adam Ali
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by Truth.
                    Floyd was knocked down against Zab, SAA.

                    1. Pac
                    2. BHop
                    3. Floyd

                    I'd say that's the top 3, I'd have to think about the rest of it carefully, cba doing that at the moment.
                    No his glove grazed the canvas and should have been ruled a kd but wasn't,, his body has never touched the canvas in his whole career..

                    I have seen Hopkins dropped a few times by pascal, and manny get iced. Both by guys that Floyd would shutout and both guys have lost to guys that Floyd would dismantle in morales, Taylor, Dawson, calzaghe

                    Floyd has to be rated number 1 since 2000.. You can make a case for manny but no way is there a real case for Hopkins being number 1

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                    • IronDanHamza
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by daggum
                      well i had robin reid beating him but robin reid is pretty amazing!
                      I had Robin Reid winning aswell.

                      Puzzles me when people act like Calzaghe would beat all these people H2H. Had an up and down fight with Byron Mitchel Kessler competed with him for the first 6 Rounds aswell.

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