Will Mayweather choose the gloves for Marcos Maidana to wear?

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    #31
    Originally posted by V.WEBB
    Uhhhh, what?
    You dont get it? You said team sports dont apply. Tennis is a 1v1 sport just like Boxing. Never in a million years will a Tennis pro dictate what the other can or cant use when it comes to equipment. Example a Racquet brand or size. Not that hard to understand.

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      #32
      Originally posted by V.WEBB
      OK. A field of one. Where they agreed to the stipulations of a contract to fight.
      Other athletes dont agree to contracts?

      Do they sign and agree to individual contracts before facing each other when they participate in the huge tournaments? US Open, etc?
      No, because they are governed by a commission to oversee and prevent things like that. Boxing doesnt have one and thats my point, there is no central commission to oversee things like that and make it more fair

      More times than that, this kind of stipulation (glove brand) is done because said fighter is the A side and wants to dictate to the other. It's part of the game.
      Why would he want to if he didnt think it would give him an advantage?
      However, this thread was made for the sole reason of complaining about something that will not make a difference in the fight. It's a grasp at straws to say that MM won't be at full strength come fight night and it's FM's fault. It's hilarious.
      Sure it makes a difference, otherwise why do it? I never brought up 1 fighters name nor did i make this thread and am speaking in the general sense in boxing.

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        #33
        Originally posted by #1Assassin
        lol.. first of all grants are punchers gloves, reyes was the ultimate punchers glove and then grants were second. the puffy gloves you are thinking of are probably winning. everlast came out with a punchers version of their gloves which is more similar to the grants than anything else.


        as for this whole ******ed thread and people claiming floyd wants 18oz and all types of ****.. let me just remind you floyd was in an argument over the size of the gloves for one of his fights (cotto), in which floyd was the one requesting the smaller gloves.

        naturally people turned it against him and said floyd was trying to gain an advantage. i pointed out what hypocrites they were being, saying they would be all over floyd if he was the one asking for bigger gloves, he asks for smaller ones and people still criticize him and not cotto.

        here we are a few years later and the one wanting big gloves is not surprisingly the soft one. people are plain making **** up about floyd wanting smaller gloves in order to criticize him when in reality he lobbied for the opposite not long ago.

        you got to keep track of your flame threads children, you are making yourselves look even more ****** than usual.


        grant are not a puncher's glove. they are extremely well formed and padded, especially at the knuckle. the leather is pretty stiff. ask anybody who knows what he's talking about and has actually put them on his hands and worked out.


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        i've used grants and everlast off and on for 15-20 years.

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          #34
          @ the best fighter in the sport making other guys fight with puffy ass gloves. How sad.

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            #35
            Originally posted by Russian Crushin
            Other athletes dont agree to contracts?
            Sure they do, but I'm asking, in tennis (for example) for the US Open, are they sitting down and drafting an individual contract when Serena has to play some 10 seed?


            Originally posted by Russian Crushin
            No, because they are governed by a commission to oversee and prevent things like that. Boxing doesnt have one and thats my point, there is no central commission to oversee things like that and make it more fair
            What makes using one glove brand unfair? If the two fighters agree to it, really what's the issue? It's not like one fighter's gloves will weigh more or less than the other's.


            Originally posted by Russian Crushin
            Why would he want to if he didnt think it would give him an advantage?

            Sure it makes a difference, otherwise why do it? I never brought up 1 fighters name nor did i make this thread and am speaking in the general sense in boxing.
            Like I said, to pull rank. I can't think of any other reason why other fighters have done it previously.

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              #36
              Originally posted by New England
              grant are not a puncher's glove. they are extremely well formed and padded, especially at the knuckle. the leather is pretty stiff. ask anybody who knows what he's talking about and has actually put them on his hands and worked out.


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              i've used grants and everlast off and on for 15-20 years.
              Thanks for info. For anyone saying it doesn't matter doesn't understand high level athletics. Ask any golfer, tennis player anything to do with equipment is extremely sensitive to them and can make huge differences just by switching brands. For some it is physical and for others it is mental.

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                #37
                Originally posted by whytetittie
                You dont get it? You said team sports dont apply. Tennis is a 1v1 sport just like Boxing. Never in a million years will a Tennis pro dictate what the other can or cant use when it comes to equipment. Example a Racquet brand or size. Not that hard to understand.
                When Serena plays against Sharapova (spelling?) in the US Open finals, are they signing individual agreements to face other?

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                  #38
                  some commissions mandate that fighters use the same type of gloves. i remember new jersey doing this, IIRC. gloves are something that are negotiated on a fight by fight basis. it's generally a matter of sponsorships, and which gloves a commission recognizes as fit for professional fights [also often a matter of sponsorships.]



                  mayweather has a sponsorship with grant. he's a pure boxer with bad hands, and grants are great for his style. he'll be well suited to negotiate a deal where grant gloves are used by both parties. that's just how it works. crying will not help


                  if maidana is an outright better fighter than mayweather, he'll stop him in whatever glove is available.

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by whytetittie
                    Thanks for info. For anyone saying it doesn't matter doesn't understand high level athletics. Ask any golfer, tennis player anything to do with equipment is extremely sensitive to them and can make huge differences just by switching brands. For some it is physical and for others it is mental.
                    I think that I do I understand high level athletics. But what I have a hard to time understanding is people complaining about what gloves MM will have to wear (and no one even knows at this point) but in the same breathe talk about how much of a mismatch for Mayweather this is. Is he that much better than MM or will it be MM's gloves that will lose him the fight?

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by Bigg Rigg
                      @ the best fighter in the sport making other guys fight with puffy ass gloves. How sad.


                      the best fighter in the sport hurts his hands all the time, and has a sponsorship with grant. he probably makes more with that sponsorship than most journeymen.


                      if guys want leverage to get their gloves used in a mayweather fight, they should beat him. they can get a sponsorship with their own gloves, and wear reyes or MX everlast in vegas. that's how this game works. it's not perfect, but that's how it works.

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