Barrera vs Jesus Chavez... WHO WINS???

[jswa17]

this tread is going to good lets not bring the pacman ducking **** in to this one

good point.

[Katz]

I'm going out on a limb and say, I see this fight going in Chavez's favor. But, if today's past-30 MAB manages to resurrect the MAB who faced and shamed NAZ with jabs and movement to pile up points, I can be in trouble.

for Chavez to win this one is to pressure MAB, back him up on the ropes then throw the bombs.

[AIR_KENG]

MAB will box and brawl... if he isn't hit by a punch, he is going to box... but when he gets hit (which is more likely fighting chavez) he'll go for a short-lived brawl... he'll get hit so many times that there will be a lot of short brawls... UD for chavez...

[grayfist]

for Chavez to win this one is to pressure MAB, back him up on the ropes then throw the bombs.

That's the only way Chavez knows how to fight. If there are those who've seen him fight in any fashion fundamentally distinct from that, I'm not one of them. To tell Chavez to fight in the manner that he always fights is to say more than is necessary. Would anyone bother to teach a wolf how to take care of a slab of meat?

The MAB who fought Naz won't be a cooperative customer for Chavez, granting that THAT Mab can and shall be resurrected. Even a Mab who is not like that one won't be easy prey for Chavez to pressure. He still has hand quickness.

That Chavez failed to crowd Erik in manners that he usually did his other opponents was, in a large part, because he was a one-armed Chavez. That is on top of the fact that the Erik of the time was not all that easy to pin, not because Erik went anywhere, but because Morales was just as able to deliver bombs.

Edit: Still and all, I still pick Chavez. And, I'm preparing my butt to be kicked. The chance that I am wrong is just about as good as that I may be right. The fight MUST be one to watch.

[kadyo's]

That's the only way Chavez knows how to fight. If there are those who've seen him fight in any fashion fundamentally distinct from that, I'm not one of them. To tell Chavez to fight in the manner that he always fights is to say more than is necessary. Would anyone bother to teach a wolf how to take care of a slab of meat?

The MAB who fought Naz won't be a cooperative customer for Chavez, granting that THAT Mab can and shall be resurrected. Even a Mab who is not like that one won't be easy prey for Chavez to pressure. He still has hand quickness.

That Chavez failed to crowd Erik in manners that he usually did his other opponents was, in a large part, because he was a one-armed Chavez. That is on top of the fact that the Erik of the time was not all that easy to pin, not because Erik went anywhere, but because Morales was just as able to deliver bombs.

Edit: Still and all, I still pick Chavez. And, I'm preparing my butt to be kicked. The chance that I am wrong is just about as good as that I may be right. The fight MUST be one to watch.

I agree, it's a pick 'em fight and not one has a clear edge over the other or am I being bias. Time for MAB to prove that he isn't afraid of any fighter except for pac.

You think MAB will fight from the outside? or will he fight like he fought EM agressively in their thied fight? Damn, i'm excited to see this upcoming great fight.

[Run]

Time for MAB to prove that he isn't afraid of any fighter except for pac.

How come everyone is so eager for M.A.B. to fight Pac again?

What would knocking him out again prove?



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[kadyo's]

How come everyone is so eager for M.A.B. to fight Pac again?

What would knocking him out again prove?

It was really him who fought pac... nothing more nothing less. BTW, your sig rock!!! so forget about mab and pac. They both suck!!!

[grayfist]

I agree, it's a pick 'em fight and not one has a clear edge over the other or am I being bias. Time for MAB to prove that he isn't afraid of any fighter except for pac.

You think MAB will fight from the outside? or will he fight like he fought EM agressively in their thied fight? Damn, i'm excited to see this upcoming great fight.

Heya there, old pal!

I'm inclined to think MAB will mix it up some in the very early going (1st and 2nd) just to see how much damage he can inflict and how much Jesus can give. If he finds success, he'll keep it up until a bit past the middle round (say 7th) then ease up-- jab and side-step-- in the 8th, 9th and 10th. He'll try to resume a brisk pace in the 11th and early in the 12th.

That's good on paper. But can a 30-past year old pair of legs and a body that has gone through many wars keep to the script? I don't know.

If MAB sees in the first two rounds that he'd be in danger if he fights up close, I think he'll step back and fight from the outside. At least, I think, he'll try, but then again, can he discourage Chavez from taking the fight to him? Force him to plant his feet and go into phone booth warefare?

To prevent such a warefare, he'll have to have some power to discourage Jesus from wading in through his punches. Absent such power, he must be quick with his hands and feet. But can he be nimble enough with those aging legs? That is something we still have to see. MAB's three fights immediately preceeding this one cannot be held up as indications of whatever quickness (or lack of it) he still has in those legs. Those did not require him to display too much feet and body movement. He didn't have to look for Erik and Erik did not have to look for him-- they knew each other enough. They were mostly planting their feet on the canvass and ****ing. As for the other two fights, I think he would have won those if he just merely somnambulated.

Edit: Good to see ya buddy! Sent ya some good ks...

[JOM'S]

IMHO MAB can take by decision .....

the combination of MAB's skills and Chavez's Mental (Pyschological) Condition may do it for Marco

[bigsmoothh]

im going with mab. hes gonna want to make history. good fight