Why don't Andre Ward step up & fight Kovalev?

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  • MDPopescu
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    #31
    Andre Ward holds the most effective deconstructive style in the ring to date. He never compromises...
    Even B-Hop provides far more entertaining fights as compared with Dre.
    Dre is a great fighter, but his sport isn't boxing -- it's something that cannot be named...

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      #32
      kovalev? really?

      even if he did step up why the hell would he fight kovalev? im not sure i ever seen a guy get elevated this way for doing jack ****.

      but ot answer your question its because kovalev hasnt earned a shot at ward, sillakh, cleverly and campillo doesnt get you the second best p4p fighter on the planet. he hasnt even earned stevenson, you bringing up his name is crazy enough, now ward? who not only is more accomplished than stevenson but isnt even a light heavyweight!?

      here is a question, how come ray robinson never fought kovalev? he was scared thats why. forget weight classes, accomplishments, time and anything that matters. lets just pretend kovalev deserves a shot at everyone because he beat the supreme nathan mother****ing cleverly.

      i will tell you who is scared, kovalev is scared. duva knows something about him. maybe his chin is soft (he has been on the canvas several times as both an amateur and a pro), maybe he doesnt go rounds well, idk. but what i do know is that if they had real confidence in him they would go out there and earn these big fights and not just call for them.

      they know kovalev isnt all that and if he tries to fight top competition he will get exposed sooner rather than later. so they are looking to jump straight to a pay day, best case scenario he lands a lucky shot, worst case scenario he gets paid. but they dont want to earn it because they dont believe ha can.

      the idea that fighting hopkins, a living legend. is ducking a guy whos best wins are cleverly, campillo and sillakh (i keep writing it so hopefully you will get some ****ing perspective) is absurd. whats sad is people are drinking the kool aid. now you are asking why ward doesnt move up to fight this dude? boxing fans are getting dumber by the minute.

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        #33
        Originally posted by #1Assassin
        kovalev? really?

        even if he did step up why the hell would he fight kovalev? im not sure i ever seen a guy get elevated this way for doing jack ****.

        but ot answer your question its because kovalev hasnt earned a shot at ward, etc
        The "secret society for defending slick boys" strikes back with the usual clichés...

        Do they provide you with standardized message forms in such cases?

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          #34
          Originally posted by #1Assassin
          kovalev? really?

          even if he did step up why the hell would he fight kovalev? im not sure i ever seen a guy get elevated this way for doing jack ****.

          but ot answer your question its because kovalev hasnt earned a shot at ward, sillakh, cleverly and campillo doesnt get you the second best p4p fighter on the planet. he hasnt even earned stevenson, you bringing up his name is crazy enough, now ward? who not only is more accomplished than stevenson but isnt even a light heavyweight!?

          here is a question, how come ray robinson never fought kovalev? he was scared thats why. forget weight classes, accomplishments, time and anything that matters. lets just pretend kovalev deserves a shot at everyone because he beat the supreme nathan mother****ing cleverly.

          i will tell you who is scared, kovalev is scared. duva knows something about him. maybe his chin is soft (he has been on the canvas several times as both an amateur and a pro), maybe he doesnt go rounds well, idk. but what i do know is that if they had real confidence in him they would go out there and earn these big fights and not just call for them.

          they know kovalev isnt all that and if he tries to fight top competition he will get exposed sooner rather than later. so they are looking to jump straight to a pay day, best case scenario he lands a lucky shot, worst case scenario he gets paid. but they dont want to earn it because they dont believe ha can.

          the idea that fighting hopkins, a living legend. is ducking a guy whos best wins are cleverly, campillo and sillakh (i keep writing it so hopefully you will get some ****ing perspective) is absurd. whats sad is people are drinking the kool aid. now you are asking why ward doesnt move up to fight this dude? boxing fans are getting dumber by the minute.
          Because:
          1. He has a belt
          2. He's on HBO

          If he fought Jurgan Brahmer.....then....well that's a damn shame and I doubt HBO would put money on that

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          • Weebler I
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            #35
            Originally posted by #1Assassin
            kovalev? really?

            even if he did step up why the hell would he fight kovalev? im not sure i ever seen a guy get elevated this way for doing jack ****.

            but ot answer your question its because kovalev hasnt earned a shot at ward, sillakh, cleverly and campillo doesnt get you the second best p4p fighter on the planet. he hasnt even earned stevenson, you bringing up his name is crazy enough, now ward? who not only is more accomplished than stevenson but isnt even a light heavyweight!?

            here is a question, how come ray robinson never fought kovalev? he was scared thats why. forget weight classes, accomplishments, time and anything that matters. lets just pretend kovalev deserves a shot at everyone because he beat the supreme nathan mother****ing cleverly.

            i will tell you who is scared, kovalev is scared. duva knows something about him. maybe his chin is soft (he has been on the canvas several times as both an amateur and a pro), maybe he doesnt go rounds well, idk. but what i do know is that if they had real confidence in him they would go out there and earn these big fights and not just call for them.

            they know kovalev isnt all that and if he tries to fight top competition he will get exposed sooner rather than later. so they are looking to jump straight to a pay day, best case scenario he lands a lucky shot, worst case scenario he gets paid. but they dont want to earn it because they dont believe ha can.

            the idea that fighting hopkins, a living legend. is ducking a guy whos best wins are cleverly, campillo and sillakh (i keep writing it so hopefully you will get some ****ing perspective) is absurd. whats sad is people are drinking the kool aid. now you are asking why ward doesnt move up to fight this dude? boxing fans are getting dumber by the minute.
            Duva had agreed the Stevenson fight for Kovalev. Where is the fear?

            Hopkins didn't want to fight Kovalev either, he was willing to fight Golovkin though, funny that.

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              #36
              Originally posted by Weebler I
              Duva had agreed the Stevenson fight for Kovalev. Where is the fear?

              Hopkins didn't want to fight Kovalev either, he was willing to fight Golovkin though, funny that.
              Of course B-Hop (and Ward) agreed on fighting GGG -- he's a good boy...
              ... While Kov kills people into the ring...
              Easy to choose...

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              • King_
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                #37
                Originally posted by GhostBlade
                Ward has accomplished more against better opponents than Mayweather and that's the only boxer casual fans ever talk about. I'd love to see a fight against Kovalev but let's see how Kovalev does against elite competition like Stevenson, Pascal, etc. if he gets the chance. A fight against Kovalev at this point doesn't make sense.
                Annnnddd the accountants are here!

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                • New England
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                  #38
                  ward doesn't have this concrete measure of control over his career that you all seem to think he's got.

                  over the last several years he's had several injuries, kelly pavlik losing his mind, and joe goosen keeping him in a long term contract that he's been trying to fight.


                  of course i fully expect you all to conveniently forget these things and call andre ward, the planet's best supermiddleweight and the conqueror of europeans, a coward. i also expect you to blame him exclusively for any inactivity.

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                  • boxingfeind
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                    #39
                    Originally posted by GhostBlade
                    Ward has accomplished more against better opponents than Mayweather and that's the only boxer casual fans ever talk about. I'd love to see a fight against Kovalev but let's see how Kovalev does against elite competition like Stevenson, Pascal, etc. if he gets the chance. A fight against Kovalev at this point doesn't make sense.
                    Oh please,Ward fighting mediocre Froch and Kessler and a weight drained Dawson is nothing compared to Diego Corralles,Cotto,Oscar Dela hoya,Castillo,Marquez,Arturro Gatti,Hatton.

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by New England
                      ward doesn't have this concrete measure of control over his career that you all seem to think he's got.

                      over the last several years he's had several injuries, kelly pavlik losing his mind, and joe goosen keeping him in a long term contract that he's been trying to fight.


                      of course i fully expect you all to conveniently forget these things and call andre ward, the planet's best supermiddleweight and the conqueror of europeans, a coward. i also expect you to blame him exclusively for any inactivity.
                      I really feel sorry for Andre Ward... Destiny hit him so hard...

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