JMM vs. Alvarado is not a cherry pick!

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  • FrankieClutch
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    #1

    JMM vs. Alvarado is not a cherry pick!

    Let's not get it twisted here, people! JMM is coming off a loss and so is Alvarado. As much as I'd love to see JMM vs Provo, it's simply not going to happen with a potential JMM vs. Pac 5 match-up later in the year.
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    Right. It is understandable that Marquez wants a less dangerous fight at his 40 years of age BEFORE heading into a tougher fight for a 5th title. ALSO, the winner of this fight becmes the MANDATORY CHALLENGER for the winner of Pacquiao-Bradley SO again it makes sense that Marquez picked the lesser opponent.

    And really lesser opponent here doesn't mean much, Alvarado is a tough SOB. Provodnikov is more of a monster though and it is not the type of physically demanding fight you want to take before one of the biggest fights of your career.

    But it is a CHERRY pick because well he is picking the loser of the two options he had... Provodnikov is the champ and gave Alvarado a beating. HOWEVER, it is an understandable choice considering the circumstances.

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    • Pu·gi·list
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      #3
      The same people said Rios was tailormade for Pacquiao and a cherrypick, but suddenly people are changing their stance? Hypocrisy at its finest.

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        #4
        Originally posted by Golovkin
        Right. It is understandable that Marquez wants a less dangerous fight at his 40 years of age BEFORE heading into a tougher fight for a 5th title. ALSO, the winner of this fight becmes the MANDATORY CHALLENGER for the winner of Pacquiao-Bradley SO again it makes sense that Marquez picked the lesser opponent.

        And really lesser opponent here doesn't mean much, Alvarado is a tough SOB. Provodnikov is more of a monster though and it is not the type of physically demanding fight you want to take before one of the biggest fights of your career.
        Exactly. I understand people's desire to see Provo vs JMM because that would be a damn war! But there has to be an understanding as to why the fight isn't happening.

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          #5
          Originally posted by Pu·gi·list
          The same people said Rios was tailormade for Pacquiao and a cherrypick, but suddenly people are changing their stance? Hypocrisy at its finest.
          Well to be fair, Rios is/was tailor made for Pac but how can we expect anything else when Pac just got put to sleep the fight before? Usually when a fighter loses, especially in that fashion, they get a soft(er) touch in their next fight

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            #6
            Originally posted by Pu·gi·list
            The same people said Rios was tailormade for Pacquiao and a cherrypick, but suddenly people are changing their stance? Hypocrisy at its finest.
            There is a difference between tailor-made and a cherry pick. Styles make fights.

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              #7
              Originally posted by FrankieClutch
              Exactly. I understand people's desire to see Provo vs JMM because that would be a damn war! But there has to be an understanding as to why the fight isn't happening.
              Right. I edited my post and added a third paragraph... The circumstances make it an acceptable choice of opponent. As far as cherry picking goes, well he did pick the loser BUT again why take a physically taxing fight before trying to make history. He should save the energy for that shot at history.

              AND STILL, Alvarado won't be easy. IMO he should have never picked any of the two and should have gone with a Likar Ramos type guy and people would have understood better that he was just taking a tune up fight before a big one. He decided to go after Alvarado and that quickly brought Provo into the conversation and it turned into one big issue.
              Last edited by The Problem Child; 03-24-2014, 12:28 AM.

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                #8
                Originally posted by FrankieClutch
                Well to be fair, Rios is/was tailor made for Pac but how can we expect anything else when Pac just got put to sleep the fight before? Usually when a fighter loses, especially in that fashion, they get a soft(er) touch in their next fight
                And Marquez is not doing the same with Alvarado? Alvarado had his soul taken out of him in his last fight and Marquez chooses him.

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by silentscoper
                  There is a difference between tailor-made and a cherry pick. Styles make fights.
                  This.

                  Originally posted by Golovkin
                  Right. I edited my post and added a third paragraph... The circumstances make it an acceptable choice of opponent. As far as cherry picking goes, well he did pick the loser BUT again why take a physically taxing fight before trying to make history. He should save the energy for that shot at history.

                  AND STILL, Alvarado won't be easy. IMO he should have never picked any of the two and should have gone with a Likar Ramos type guy and people would have understood better that he was just taking a tune up fight before a big one. He decided to go after Alvarado and that quickly brought Provo into the conversation and it turned into one big issue.
                  See, I can see an argument for him ducking Provo. But does JMM ducking Provo = JMM cherry picking Alvarado? (not rhetorical lol)

                  Originally posted by Pu·gi·list
                  And Marquez is not doing the same with Alvarado? Alvarado had his soul taken out of him in his last fight and Marquez chooses him.
                  I know what you're saying, but styles make fights and assuming Alvarado can put that beating behind him, he can be very competitive against JMM

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                  • FrankieClutch
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Golovkin
                    Right. I edited my post and added a third paragraph... The circumstances make it an acceptable choice of opponent. As far as cherry picking goes, well he did pick the loser BUT again why take a physically taxing fight before trying to make history. He should save the energy for that shot at history.

                    AND STILL, Alvarado won't be easy. IMO he should have never picked any of the two and should have gone with a Likar Ramos type guy and people would have understood better that he was just taking a tune up fight before a big one. He decided to go after Alvarado and that quickly brought Provo into the conversation and it turned into one big issue.
                    I agree with this A LOT! The only thing I didn't like from JMM was that he said that Provo does nothing to further his career but then goes around and chooses the guy that Provo demolished. As I said, I still don't think it's a cherry pick, but I don't like the contradiction at all.

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