Can you name boxing fights in history where the triangle theory backfired?

[-Kev-]

outside NSB, you don't hear triangle theories being used
the scenario explained in the OP has happened plenty of times
when guys fight common opponents, it's bound to happen
but people flat out basing a prediction on a triangle theory?
that doesn't happen in the real world
sometimes fighters A and B fight in a similar style
it's ok to make a comparison then on how fighter C does vs A and B
but the "he lost to him so he'll lose to this guy" is just NSB garbage
people here just use that to discredit fighters they don't like

As a member of 3 different boxing forums, I can tell you, it's not just an NSB thing.

[FeFist]

Margarito beat Martinez, Williams beat Margarito ( and Martinez); but Martinez knocked Williams out in their final encounter.

[Jack Napier]

As a member of 3 different boxing forums, I can tell you, it's not just an NSB thing.

you get the point dude, an online/casual fan thing then
diehard fans understand that styles make fights
they don't cop out on predictions like that
people online believe it, or just say it to get a rise outta people
but fans who know their shit don't do that with predictions

[-Kev-]

you get the point dude, an online/casual fan thing then
diehard fans understand that styles make fights
they don't cop out on predictions like that
people online believe it, or just say it to get a rise outta people
but fans who know their shit don't do that with predictions

Hmm, I have seen some die hard fans use it. Don't give hardcore fans too much credit, there's lots of dumb one's. Watching boxing for an xx amount of years doesn't make some one an expert by any means.

[Jack Napier]

Hmm, I have seen some die hard fans use it. Don't give hardcore fans too much credit, there's lots of dumb one's. Watching boxing for an xx amount of years doesn't make some one an expert by any means.

seriously, never once heard the "he beat this guy so guaranteed he'll beat this guy who fights in a completely dissimilar style with no valid comparison" crap in real life, only on NSB

[FeFist]

Hearns over Duran, Barkley over Hearns, Duran over Barkley.

Funnily enough, I play games of this nature when I'm stuck on a train for a long time. ''Use A > B >C logic to argue x fighter is greater than Y''. Factually it is not true, but the connection between present fighters, and fighters some 60 years ago amuses me.

[Guest]

So 'fighter A' beat 'fighter B', and 'fighter B' and 'fighter C' had fought before or after and 'fighter B' beat 'fighter C', and because of this, the fans and media felt that 'fighter A' will be able to destroy/beat 'fighter C', and it actually did not go that way.

A recent and popular example is Cotto vs Mosley, Margarito vs Cotto, Mosley vs Margarito.

Can you name some?

Disclaimer: This is not a troll/flame/bashing thread.

I suppose the all-time most famous has to be Ali/Frazier/Foreman.

[Guest]

... so much so I was about the 50th person in the thread to say it.

[FeFist]

seriously, never once heard the "he beat this guy so guaranteed he'll beat this guy who fights in a completely dissimilar style with no valid comparison" crap in real life, only on NSB

Because in real life people wouldn't be able to hit boxrec in the middle of a conversation. People will say equally silly shit, but they cannot pretend they know what they're talking about.

[-Kev-]

@Jack Napier.

If you can actually find a boxing fan in real life you are lucky. Besides my dad, I don't know of any other knowledgeable boxing fan. The only true boxing fans I can interact with are on the internet, and I have seen the triangle theory either be used outright or subtly insinuated in the form that a fighter is superior to another because they beat a common fighter "better".

To be completely honest, casual fans don't know enough boxing history to bring up triangle theories, and like fefist said they don't even have Boxrec at their fingertips. I wouldn't be surprised if a casual would not even know about Cotto/Mosley/Margarito in 2007-2008. For example the FB guy who is clearly an older person, brought up Monzon vs Napoles vs SRL, I highly doubt some casual would bring up those two old school fighters who BTW aren't even THAT popular to American casuals.

It's hard to admit, but triangle theories is a discussion made by hardcore fans, believe it or not.