Wladimir Klitschko vs. Deontay Wilder

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  • yoz
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    #41
    Originally posted by Jloro
    Wilder by Icing in round 1

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    • champion4ever
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      #42
      Deontay's aggression would win this fight hands down because Wladimir doesn't like to fight anymore. He shows no signs of life or fight in the ring whatsoever.


      Moreover, Wladimir fights like a spiritually broken fighter. Once Wilder discovers this and notices that Klitschko won't fight him back, he would become more emboldened to stop him.

      Wlad would just be content on surviving and not getting KO by slowing down the pace through grappling, clinching and wrestling so he can last the full twelve rounds.

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      • yoz
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        #43
        Originally posted by champion4ever
        Deontay's aggression would win this fight hands down because Wladimir doesn't like to fight anymore. He shows no signs of life or fight in the ring whatsoever.


        Moreover, Wladimir fights like a spiritually broken fighter. Once Wilder discovers this and notices that Klitschko won't fight him back, he would become more emboldened to stop him.

        Wlad would just be content on surviving and not getting KO by slowing down the pace through grappling, clinching and wrestling so he can last the full twelve rounds.
        OK...

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          #44
          Originally posted by yoz
          OK...
          I take it that you haven't seen many of Wladimir's ring performances in recent years. He used to be a crowd pleasing fighter who would throw a lot of punches in search of the early quick knockout but not anymore. Ever since his last KO loss to Lamon Brewster, he has no longer been the same fighter.

          He has become a defensive safety first fighter due to his lack of stamina, who often boxes at a much slower pace, while avoiding exchanges in order to preserve energy. Likewise, he has become a very dirty fighter as well; Who often gets away with bending the rules.

          To me it seems that he has been psychologically scarred by that Knockout loss to Brewster. The reason being is because the very exact thing happened to him prior in his KO loss to Ross Purrity several years earlier, in which he basically punched himself out.

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            #45
            Originally posted by champion4ever
            I take it that you haven't seen many of Wladimir's ring performances in recent years. He used to be a crowd pleasing fighter who would throw a lot of punches in search of the early quick knockout but not anymore. Ever since his last KO loss to Lamon Brewster, he has no longer been the same fighter.

            He has become a defensive safety first fighter due to his lack of stamina, who often boxes at a much slower pace, while avoiding exchanges in order to preserve energy. Likewise, he has become a very dirty fighter as well; Who often gets away with bending the rules.

            To me it seems that he has been psychologically scarred by that Knockout loss to Brewster. The reason being is because the very exact thing happened to him prior in his KO loss to Ross Purrity several years earlier, in which he basically punched himself out.
            by several years earlier you mean 22 yr old wlad

            watch wach or tt recent fights. that's pretty much how would this one go apart from wilder's chin is nowhere near good as wach's.

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              #46
              Originally posted by Simurgh
              by several years earlier you mean 22 yr old wlad

              watch wach or tt recent fights. that's pretty much how would this one go apart from wilder's chin is nowhere near good as wach's.
              That might be true but the facts are still the same. Wladimir punched himself out twice in his career. One cannot rewrite the history books.

              As far as Wilder's chin is concerned it doesn't matter because it all boils down to whoever gets there first and remember that Wlad is a slow starter. Also, from the fights that I have seen of Deontay he is going to be swinging. He is far from a punching bag. He has fast hands who likes to throw punches and typically gets them off first. He would have Wlad running and clinching half way around the ring the entire fight in order to avoid his power.

              The irony in all of this is that Deontay Wilder reminds me of the younger version of Wladimir Klitschko; Someone who is not afraid of throwing punches or getting hit and ending his fights very early and quickly.

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                #47
                There is much we do not know about Wylder, in spite of his impressive record.

                What we know, is that he will always have a puncher's chance, regardless of his opponent.
                He has power, and power alone, especially at hw , can be a game changer.

                We also know that his technique is rather raw , and in my opinion what caused the infamous knock down was first and foremost poor footwork and technique. His chin is untested more than su****ious.

                Wlad doesn't have a good chin, we know that, at this moment I'd consider Wylder a huge underdog with a puncher's chance.

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                  #48
                  Wlad KO within 2

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                  • damned1974
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                    #49
                    Originally posted by Simurgh
                    by several years earlier you mean 22 yr old wlad

                    watch wach or tt recent fights. that's pretty much how would this one go apart from wilder's chin is nowhere near good as wach's.
                    Not sure about that...Wilder is quicker and can set up the right hand better than Wach and Thompson was a slow converted southpaw with little power.

                    With Wilder's reach, athleticism, power etc..he CAN make this an interesting fight.This doesn't mean he is the "real deal".TBH even if he was to spark out Wlad (who has a proven bad chin), this doesn't mean he is the goods as the jury is still out on him.

                    Wlad is not going to get aggressive against Wilder and if he is content just jabbing, how long will it take before Deontay just lets his right hand go right over that jab-which is noticeably much faster than Wach or Thompson's punch?

                    This is a winnable fight for Wilder,though Wlad should be favoured due to his experience going late in fights and correcting errors he has.It would be up to Wilder to take advantage of the fact that 99% of Wlad's punches are jabs.

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                      #50
                      There is a small window of vulnerability that opens when Wladimir jabs, but majority of boxers can't get in that window. Wilder's speed and length gives him a better advantage than most, and his power could change the fight if he lands.

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