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  • ADP02
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    #41
    Originally posted by 4Corners
    And someone else could post stuff where Manny was saying he wasn't interested in fighting Mosley or where Roach and all them only would fight Shane at 143.......

    The fact is Floyd fought Cotto while he was #1 at 154, and not prime, but still good.

    If you really believe Floyd and Arums relationship had zero to do with that fight not happening in 2007-2008, then you must be challenged.
    Floyd said it himself that he is not interested since Cotto will not bring him big money I doubt you will find Manny saying that about Cotto because its a joke!

    I'm more than certain that you took part in threads between Floyd/Manny between 2009 to today, right? You know, with the same Arum and same Floyd, right? What's the difference? Wasn't Floyd serious at some points, according to Floyd fans?

    Again, stop with the excuses. Floyd could have just said the truth if what you said was such a big deal back then. You know, just like Floyd is able to say now that Floyd doesn't want to do business with Arum.

    I'm not saying that it would be easy to get a deal done but if you think that Floyd really wanted to seriously fight Manny back in 2009 then what you said is irrelevant. If you think that Floyd was just putting roadblocks and never had any intentions to fight Manny then I'm OK with your response!

    The key is Floyd's response and the time period.

    Cotto was undefeated and prime. Ironically, Floyd had a similar response for Margarito, Mosley, Williams, Sergio Martinez, and so on ..... so again, not all TR fighters and again, just an excuse from a Floyd fan!
    Last edited by ADP02; 03-18-2014, 12:21 AM.

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    • BafanaBafana
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      #42
      Originally posted by Everlast03
      Sorry: Casamayor, Freitas, Johnson, Mosley (prime), Kostya Tszyu, Prime Cotto, Margarito, Paul Williams, Winky Wright, Pacqiuao , Sergio Martinez.
      1998-2000:

      130
      Mayweather v. Casamayor: Mayweather MD
      Mayweather v. Freitas: Mayweather UD
      Mayweather v Johnston: Mayweather UD

      135:
      Mayweather v. Mosley (1999-2000): Mosley TKO5


      2004-2005:

      140:
      Mayweather v. Tzsyu: Mayweather UD


      2006-2012:

      147:
      Mayweather v. Forrest (2005-07): Mayweather/Forrest SD
      Mayweather v. Margarito (2005-09): Mayweather MD/Margarito TKO10
      Mayweather v. Cotto (2006-08): Mayweather MD
      Mayweather v. Williams (2006-08): Mayweather MD/SD or Williams SD
      Mayweather v. Pacquiao (2008-2012): Mayweather MD/SD

      154:
      Mayweather v.Wright (2006-08): Mayweather/Wright SD
      Mayweather v. Forrest (2007-09): Forrest MD/SD
      Mayweather v. Williams (2008-10): Williams SD/MD/UD

      Mayweather v. Martinez (2007-10): Martinez SD/MD or TKO11


      160:
      Mayweather v. Martinez (2010-12): Martinez UD/MD/TKO8


      2012-present:

      154:
      Mayweather v. Lara (2012-14): Mayweather/Lara MD or SD
      Mayweather v. Trout (2012-14): Mayweather UD/MD
      Mayweather v. Andrade (2014): Mayweather UD/MD
      Last edited by BafanaBafana; 03-18-2014, 01:57 AM.

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      • sugarsmosley
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        #43
        Originally posted by BafanaBafana
        1998-2000:

        130
        Mayweather v. Casamayor: Mayweather MD
        Mayweather v. Freitas: Mayweather UD
        Mayweather v Johnston: Mayweather UD

        135:
        Mayweather v. Mosley (1999-2000): Mosley TKO5


        2004-2005:

        140:
        Mayweather v. Tzsyu: Mayweather UD


        2006-2012:

        147:
        Mayweather v. Forrest (2005-07): Mayweather/Forrest SD
        Mayweather v. Margarito (2005-09): Mayweather MD/Margarito TKO10
        Mayweather v. Cotto (2006-08): Mayweather MD
        Mayweather v. Williams (2006-08): Mayweather MD/SD or Williams SD
        Mayweather v. Pacquiao (2008-2012): Mayweather MD/SD

        154:
        Mayweather v.Wright (2006-08): Mayweather/Wright SD
        Mayweather v. Forrest (2007-09): Forrest MD/SD
        Mayweather v. Williams (2008-10): Williams SD/MD/UD

        Mayweather v. Martinez (2007-10): Martinez SD/MD or TKO10


        160:
        Mayweather v. Martinez (2010-12): Martinez UD/MD/TKO8


        2012-present:

        154:
        Mayweather v. Lara (2012-14): Mayweather/Lara MD or SD
        Mayweather v. Trout (2012-14): Mayweather UD/MD
        Mayweather v. Andrade (2014): Mayweather UD/MD
        this is an interesting list you have here, i definitely dream of a prime shane - prime floyd. imagine that fight at lightweight... a man can only dream!

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        • 4Corners
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          #44
          Originally posted by ADP02
          Floyd said it himself that he is not interested since Cotto will not bring him big money I doubt you will find Manny saying that about Cotto because its a joke!

          I'm more than certain that you took part in threads between Floyd/Manny between 2009 to today, right? You know, with the same Arum and same Floyd, right? What's the difference? Wasn't Floyd serious at some points, according to Floyd fans?

          Again, stop with the excuses. Floyd could have just said the truth if what you said was such a big deal back then. You know, just like Floyd is able to say now that Floyd doesn't want to do business with Arum.

          I'm not saying that it would be easy to get a deal done but if you think that Floyd really wanted to seriously fight Manny back in 2009 then what you said is irrelevant. If you think that Floyd was just putting roadblocks and never had any intentions to fight Manny then I'm OK with your response!

          The key is Floyd's response and the time period.

          Cotto was undefeated and prime. Ironically, Floyd had a similar response for Margarito, Mosley, Williams, Sergio Martinez, and so on ..... so again, not all TR fighters and again, just an excuse from a Floyd fan!
          You keep listing Sergio as if Floyd is supposed to fight him....he's the Middleweight Champion currently avoiding his biggest threat, Golovkin. Tell Sergio to fight people in his weight class.

          Williams, I addressed that, but you were probably too thick to see that part. He got his first legit win in July 2007, Floyd then fought Hatton, the bigger and better fight at the time. Paul proceeded to drop a decision to Carlos Quintana in February 2008. So don't tell me people were clamoring for Mayweather-Williams in 2008, when that damn well wasn't true after he split with Quintana then moved up to 154. And Mosley didn't want to fight Floyd in 2006 or any time prior. That's been documented. Floyd still fought him while he was #3 P4P and the #1/2 WW in the world coming off a huge win.

          You're right, Manny probably didn't say it directly. He only ever says "Talk to my promoter Bob Arum" on who he's fighting. His trainer, who speaks largely fr his entire his team at times, openly said they wouldn't fight Mosley at any other weight aside from 143, then turned around and fought him coming off a one sided loss to Floyd and draw with Mora.

          Floyd also still got Cotto when he was #1 at 154, not prime but still good. What's laughable is you have such bad things to say about Floyd but openly defend Manny and never criticize, ever. Manny has fought one legit opponent since Cotto and Clottey...Tim Bradley. Marquez at WW was never supposed to be legit. Pac-JMM 4 was only big because of the debacle that was Pac-JMM 3. Pac fighting Margarito and Mosley at the times he did was a joke, as was Rios coming off a clear loss to Alvarado. Bradley 2 is a good fight, but it's the same opponent he already beat in the eyes of damn near everyone 2 years ago.

          Meanwhile the guy you're hating on has fought Mosley, Ortiz, Cotto, Guerrero, Canelo, and now Maidana....all legit fights when he fought them, since.

          I'd call it like I see it. Floyd fighting Marquez in 2009 was a joke, I only ever gave Floyd a little bit of credit after seeing Marquez do a number on Manny at WW. Floyd fighting Khan before doing anything significant again would be a joke.
          Last edited by 4Corners; 03-18-2014, 02:04 AM.

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            #45
            Originally posted by 4Corners
            You keep listing Sergio as if Floyd is supposed to fight him....he's the Middleweight Champion currently avoiding his biggest threat, Golovkin. Tell Sergio to fight people in his weight class.

            Williams, I addressed that, but you were probably too thick to see that part. He got his first legit win in July 2007, Floyd then fought Hatton, the bigger and better fight at the time. Paul proceeded to drop a decision to Carlos Quintana in February 2008. So don't tell me people were clamoring for Mayweather-Williams in 2008, when that damn well wasn't true after he split with Quintana then moved up to 154. And Mosley didn't want to fight Floyd in 2006 or any time prior. That's been documented. Floyd still fought him while he was #3 P4P and the #1/2 WW in the world coming off a huge win.

            You're right, Manny probably didn't say it directly. He only ever says "Talk to my promoter Bob Arum" on who he's fighting. His trainer, who speaks largely fr his entire his team at times, openly said they wouldn't fight Mosley at any other weight aside from 143, then turned around and fought him coming off a one sided loss to Floyd and draw with Mora.

            Floyd also still got Cotto when he was #1 at 154, not prime but still good. What's laughable is you have such bad things to say about Floyd but openly defend Manny and never criticize, ever. Manny has fought one legit opponent since Cotto and Clottey...Tim Bradley. Marquez at WW was never supposed to be legit. Pac-JMM 4 was only big because of the debacle that was Pac-JMM 3. Pac fighting Margarito and Mosley at the times he did was a joke, as was Rios coming off a clear loss to Alvarado. Bradley 2 is a good fight, but it's the same opponent he already beat in the eyes of damn near everyone 2 years ago.

            Meanwhile the guy you're hating on has fought Mosley, Ortiz, Cotto, Guerrero, Canelo, and now Maidana....all legit fights when he fought them, since.

            I'd call it like I see it. Floyd fighting Marquez in 2009 was a joke, I only ever gave Floyd a little bit of credit after seeing Marquez do a number on Manny at WW. Floyd fighting Khan before doing anything significant again would be a joke.

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            • BafanaBafana
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              #46
              Here's a good question, how would Floyd have survived the prime DLH, Trinidad, Mosely, Forrest welterweight era (which obviously ****s all over this one)? Assuming he doesn't avoid them all of course...

              Last edited by BafanaBafana; 03-18-2014, 03:21 AM.

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                #47
                Originally posted by BafanaBafana
                Here's a good question, how would Floyd have survived the prime DLH, Trinidad, Mosely, Forrest welterweight era (which obviously ****s all over this one)? Assuming he doesn't avoid them all of course...

                I think a young Floyd has his toughest time with Vernon Forest and Oscar. Young Floyd beats young Mosley and Tito by decision. Shane always had problems with technical boxers especially guys who could match him for hand speed. He looked his best against guys who were slow and not very technically skilled e.g. Margarito and Mayorga. Tito is another guy who had issues with movers because he relied too heavily on the left hook and didn't offer much else when he couldn't land it.

                A young Oscar and young Vernon Forrest would be Floyd's toughest tests.

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                • theface07
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                  #48
                  Floyd has a lot of bad karma in his corner that has just been building since his fame has grown and he became a title contender.
                  With the latest news of his reported criminal charges, hopefully it will all come back in his face. He does nothing good for boxing. He only does good for himself.

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                    #49
                    Thats the thing flowmos don't understand. Mayweathers ducking and dodging reputation isn't just because of Pacquiao. He's always been a cherry picker

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                    • Pain~Lucy
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                      #50
                      that's what we call careful matchmaking

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