Mayweather misses 11 opportunities to fight viable opponents

[Larry the boss]

Homie, you forgot prime Cotto.

Cotto was with top rank and is on record himself saying he never pursued that fight

Sure that's the problem.

Floyd was called out by Sergio Martinez. Let me know of someone that Floyd faced that was going to be as tough to beat as Martinez?

Floyd recently said that he is not interested in Manny Pacquiao. Weeks later comes up with a poll to cherry pick Khan or Maidana.....

Martinez is a damn middleweight and also called out your boy Manny so lets hear how biased you are..and how is Maidana who is a fellow champ at ww a cherry pick?

[Larry the boss]

Casamayor: Would have liked to see it, but Floyd fought THE FIGHTS and beat THE GUYS at 130. Genaro Hernandez and Diego Corrales.

Johnston: He lost to Castillo, who Floyd fought. He also lost to Lazcano. There was never any demand for this fight.

Freitas: He didn't really get a big win till 2002 against Casamayor, when Floyd was already up to 135 fighting Castillo. And he didn't move to 135 until 2004, when Floyd was well on his way to 140. Ended up losing in 2004 to Corrales anyways. Not a fight that needed to happen by any means.

Mosley: In his prime, Shane was already at 147-154 while Floyd was at 135-140. When Floyd got to 147 in 2005-2006, Shane wanted absolutely nothing to do with that fight.

Tszyu: When Floyd got to 140 in 2004, Tszyu was injured and not fighting. When he returned, Floyd voiced interest in fighting in him, as he had for years prior. Tszyu lost to Hatton, who Floyd tried to fight right after Gatti as well. Not Floyd's fault.

Williams: First legit win came in Summer of 2007, Floyd ended up fighting Hatton the end of that year, which was the bigger and better fight at the time anyways. Paul proceeded to drop a decision to Carlos Quintana 2 months after that fight. I don't remember anybody wanting to see that fight after Paul did that. He came back and beat Quintana the 2nd time around, then moved to 154. One of the most overstated "ducks" in recent memory.

Wright: Floyd was a 140 fighter at the time. He had absolutely zero obligation to fight a guy 2-3 weight classes bigger in 2005.

Martinez: Sergio Martinez is the Middleweight champion of the world. Floyd has no obligation to fight him.


Margarito has some merit that fight could have happened, but is it really a career changer looking back.....absolutely not. Pacquiao and Floyd....we've been there a million times. You can't singly blame one guy for that fight not taking place yet.

People are just adding names to rewrite history.

Great post filled with facts but will be ignored

[Jcsuper]

Mayweather misses eleven threatening opportunities to fight viable opponents (the most in boxing history) since 1999.POUND-FOR-POUND,

THE BEST MANAGER
By The Nonpareil Hilario

In 1999-2000 while Joel Casamayor, Acelino Freitas, and "Lil But Bad" Stevie Johnston were all viable candidates to fight this 5'8" junior lightweight. These men were by-passed for lesser 130-pound names such as Carlos Rios, Justin Juuko, Carlos Gerena and Gregorio Vargas. To lure the late Diego Corrales in a 130-pound scrap, while Chico was struggling exhaustingly to make 130, is suspect but Chico obliged, so that's on him not on this elusive prodigy. But if we look closer after this fight, "Pretty Boy" was still campaigning at 130. He tested lightweight once against Emanuel Augustus, but fights two more lesser 130 pounders in Carlos Hernandez and Jesus Chavez, while Casamayor, Freitas, and Johnston would still have been hot fights, as far as youth, speed, skill, good-for-TV- networks, fans and Fistiana are concerned. The Rios fight was aired on the TNT network, as this father of four wasn't an HBO-exclusive boxer just yet.

Let's not forget, the greatest threat to this former three-time national Golden Gloves champion in 1999 was "Sugar" Shane Mosley. Keep this name in mind for 10 years later. 2002 will mark Roger Mayweather's nephew's greatest and only year he should get credit for, challenging Jose Luis Castillo who was the best lightweight of the day. Many at ringside and media in attendance believed he lost this fight, but the man previously known as Floyd Joy Sinclair returned later in the year to win the rematch - soundly. The year 2003 brought wins against Victoriano Sosa and Phillip N'dou. The dust had settled a bit because Mosley is now three years into his welterweight campaign, Casamayor and Freitas fought one another (and now a division below) and Johnston is available early in the year but suffers a technical knockout loss at the hands of Juan Lazcano in September.

During the frames of 2004 - 2005, Kostya Tszyu is the 140 pound lineal champion and owner of this division. So, rather than repeat his "dare to be great" arrival at lightweight by challenging Castillo, this 1996 Bronze medalist opted to fight Demarcus Corley, Henry Bruseles and Arturo Gatti -not The Boss.

Introducing the "Pattern Train", which began boarding less challenging prizefighters in 1999, got derailed in 2002 and has been back on track since, hence the title of this article. In 2006 the Pattern Train becomes more visible if one is using binoculars because up until now, it's going on 7 years without 5 peers. Zab Judah boards with luggage and a loss in his previous fight, for an exclusive pay per view appearance. Then Judah's conqueror Carlos Baldomir, embarked the Pattern for another pay per view night of boxing. Not the fan-demanding, good-for-networks and Boxiana's then most feared welterweight Antonio Margarito, who many viewed as a taller, stronger Castillo prototype.

In 2007, after engaging in a pay-per-view record breaking extravaganza, Oscar De La Hoya departed the Pattern with a loss against this Las Vegas resident. It was to be ODLH's last hurrah, in terms of Oscar being competitive. Later in the year, Ricky Hatton boarded the Pattern with tote bag and a traveling band from the United Kingdom. A good win, no complaints, because the Pattern is now changed to Money. No more legacy-building, not that it was of interest from its choices and actions, respectively. It's now about making cents, including 50 Cent. Sadly in 2008, the man know known as "Money" retires, with an undefeated, smaller and fierce short-armed pay-per-view star Miguel Cotto available and a taller long-armed Margarito conqueror Paul Williams, extremely available.

January 2009 opens with Mosley having a career resurrecting win over Margarito, making him the obvious lucrative opponent for Leonard Ellerbe's best friend who announced a comeback in May. Not a chance! Instead, the smaller and less threatening Juan Manuel Marquez was asked to travel north ten pounds for a pay-per-view destination. Speaking of ten pounds, now we can insert Winky Wright to this list of missed operable opponents. This undefeated shot-caller trash talked about a potential fight with Wright in 04 and could've added the same amount of weight asked of Mr. Marquez for his "comeback" bout set for September 2009. To no one's surprise, he refused to add the weight to fight Winky, who at that time was imploring for a super fight with many big names of the day. They clashed on **********.com's Mayweather Mondays and Winky Wednesdays. This writer won't forget the build-up from week to week as these two held court at this website weekly.

After Marquez was dispatched via unanimous decision, Shane needed to climb into the ring and come out of character to challenge the former drop-out of Ottawa Hills High School in Grand Rapids, Michigan. Finally cornered, he accepted and beat Shane over a 12-round unanimous decision seven months later. Next; Manny Pacquiao, with blood test demands, character assassinations implicating the Philippine icon of using steroids, various court cases [Pacquiao filed a defamation suit against the Mayweathers, while Money already had a case pending for assaulting his children's mother] and match-making personalities not agreeing to terms made it difficult to finalize a deal. This lasted over the course of 2009, 2010 and 2011 hurting all involved, mainly Pugilism on the world stage. When a boxer has a trend of avoiding top notch competition, it should be taken into consideration very seriously by writers, fighters and fans. Lineal middleweight king, Sergio Martinez, has called Junior to meet at 154 a few times; no response was ever made public from the Mayweather team. Yet folks continue to "believe" in a person who has clearly demonstrated since 1999 a lack of self-assurance.

"If you claim you're the best fighter in the world pound for pound fight! Don't make any excuses" James Toney, criticizing his Grand Rapids neighbor.

Fact to Consider: established in this essay are E L E V E N men that this once 84-6 amateur didn't fight.

This practitioner lacks true faith in self that champions who dare to be great possess - like Ray Leonard for Roberto Duran, Thomas Hearns for Marvelous Marvin Hagler or Meldrick Taylor for Julio Cesar Chavez. This is true pound-for-pound reputation, not a fighter's attributes or the handling of much aforementioned C-rated opposition. Pound-for-Pound begins internally with the willingness to challenge yourself through your peers and ends externally with succeeding. Not monopolizing opponents for less risk / most money over a long period. Moreover, improper labeling of this status is equivalent to the music industry calling today's half-naked and sex-selling songstresses diva, when Aretha Franklin, Gladys Knight and Dionne Warwick sung and performed to the very essence of this term with grace and never cast their pearls amongst swine.

With usage of phrases such as: didn't fight, promoters disagreeing or the networks didn't come to terms, this is a very high number of misses for a boxer to be dubbed "pound-for-pound". There is no evidence of a real threatening fight like the aforementioned 80's comparisons. In the court of law it's viewed as defrauding the public because pound-for-pound is contrary to this subject's 42 -0 dossier.

Sugar Ray Robinson was the first fighter to be christened Pound-for-Pound. He went 40 - 0 in his first two years as a pro, beating Sammy Angott 2x, Marty Servo 2x, Fritzie Zivic 2x and Jake LaMotta once. Angott and Zivic were former World Champions, while Servo and LaMotta would be years later. This is when the word champion meant King of the Throne. Today, we need to keep the bar high. At the beginning of his eleventh year Robbie was 129 - 1 with the sole defeat avenged four times! Pound-for-Pound calculus; Robinson demonstrates willingness within 24 months as a pro versus four threatening peers, beats all of them and grants rematches. Jeff Mayweather's nephew has 42 contests in 15 years with one willing bout against Castillo. I just vomited writing the previous sentence because it's a blasphemous half-hearted comparison.

Is it easy to dissect a person's record? Not with this amount of missed peers. Pacquiao fought Marco Antonio Barrera twice, Erik Morales and Marquez three times. Manny is 7-1-1 with these pound-for-pound peers. Paul Williams, from 2007-2010 would literally campaign in 3 weight classes searching for the best challenges. Mosley accepted challenges from a young Oscar De La Hoya, the late Vernon Forrest and Wright. Take a peak at Oscar's opposition choices - impressive! James Toney is the last prizefighter to fight threatening peers six weeks apart in Michael Nunn and Reggie Johnson in 1991. He fought and sought the best all the way to a 2006 draw with Hasim Rahman. James is noteworthy and is consistent with true pound-for-pound accolades.

Deception smothers reality.

The public should be steered properly of who's who because they too can see this trend - now and then - but they aren't writers. Writers should be the voice of the voiceless and write as fighters fought in the 40's -- with integrity and honesty. Springs Toledo is one of those writers, for his impeccable research and new information revealed within each expose' on living and deceased fistic greats.

Congratulations to Andre Ward for an incredible run since his 2009 win over Edison Miranda and to date against Carl Froch to ascend to the top of the 168-pound honors...Nat Fleischer would've been proud.

Good news, Bert Sugar is feeling better.

[SeekDaGreat]

Lol, "Castillio." " Free-tezz." "Maginalli."May-Donna."

The Butcher.

[285Kid]

2014 Cotto (5'7) fighting Martinez , why not have Floyd (5'8) vs Martinez?

[4Corners]

2014 Cotto (5'7) fighting Martinez , why not have Floyd (5'8) vs Martinez?

Very misleading. Where did Cotto start fighting......140

Floyd......130

Cotto is undersized big time at Middleweight, just like Floyd is undersized big time to 154. Floyd fighting at Middleweight, against guys who are 170+ on fight night universally basically, would be like Cotto fighting Super Middleweights.

Cotto is around 160 on fight night or so, About 10 lbs bigger then Floyd is on fight night at the least.

[ADP02]

Cotto was with top rank and is on record himself saying he never pursued that fight



Martinez is a damn middleweight and also called out your boy Manny so lets hear how biased you are..and how is Maidana who is a fellow champ at ww a cherry pick?

Martine wanted to fight at 154.

Floyd fought Marquez, who had recently moved from 130 to 135, right?
How did you respond to that? Oh yeah, I remember.

"... but Marquez is ranked P4P #2" - LarryExxxxcuse

but now that we are talking about a guy who was ready to fight at a weight that Floyd already fought at you respond with excuses.

And if all else fails, bring up Manny who we all know never fought at 154 and also told us that he will never go beyond 147 after he fights Margarito.

Floyd fought BEFORE & AFTER at 154. Has even a title there. So again stop it with them excuses!

[I Love Jesus!]

Mayweather misses eleven threatening opportunities to fight viable opponents (the most in boxing history) since 1999.POUND-FOR-POUND,

THE BEST MANAGER
By The Nonpareil Hilario

In 1999-2000 while Joel Casamayor, Acelino Freitas, and "Lil But Bad" Stevie Johnston were all viable candidates to fight this 5'8" junior lightweight. These men were by-passed for lesser 130-pound names such as Carlos Rios, Justin Juuko, Carlos Gerena and Gregorio Vargas. To lure the late Diego Corrales in a 130-pound scrap, while Chico was struggling exhaustingly to make 130, is suspect but Chico obliged, so that's on him not on this elusive prodigy. But if we look closer after this fight, "Pretty Boy" was still campaigning at 130. He tested lightweight once against Emanuel Augustus, but fights two more lesser 130 pounders in Carlos Hernandez and Jesus Chavez, while Casamayor, Freitas, and Johnston would still have been hot fights, as far as youth, speed, skill, good-for-TV- networks, fans and Fistiana are concerned. The Rios fight was aired on the TNT network, as this father of four wasn't an HBO-exclusive boxer just yet.

Let's not forget, the greatest threat to this former three-time national Golden Gloves champion in 1999 was "Sugar" Shane Mosley. Keep this name in mind for 10 years later. 2002 will mark Roger Mayweather's nephew's greatest and only year he should get credit for, challenging Jose Luis Castillo who was the best lightweight of the day. Many at ringside and media in attendance believed he lost this fight, but the man previously known as Floyd Joy Sinclair returned later in the year to win the rematch - soundly. The year 2003 brought wins against Victoriano Sosa and Phillip N'dou. The dust had settled a bit because Mosley is now three years into his welterweight campaign, Casamayor and Freitas fought one another (and now a division below) and Johnston is available early in the year but suffers a technical knockout loss at the hands of Juan Lazcano in September.

During the frames of 2004 - 2005, Kostya Tszyu is the 140 pound lineal champion and owner of this division. So, rather than repeat his "dare to be great" arrival at lightweight by challenging Castillo, this 1996 Bronze medalist opted to fight Demarcus Corley, Henry Bruseles and Arturo Gatti -not The Boss.

Introducing the "Pattern Train", which began boarding less challenging prizefighters in 1999, got derailed in 2002 and has been back on track since, hence the title of this article. In 2006 the Pattern Train becomes more visible if one is using binoculars because up until now, it's going on 7 years without 5 peers. Zab Judah boards with luggage and a loss in his previous fight, for an exclusive pay per view appearance. Then Judah's conqueror Carlos Baldomir, embarked the Pattern for another pay per view night of boxing. Not the fan-demanding, good-for-networks and Boxiana's then most feared welterweight Antonio Margarito, who many viewed as a taller, stronger Castillo prototype.

In 2007, after engaging in a pay-per-view record breaking extravaganza, Oscar De La Hoya departed the Pattern with a loss against this Las Vegas resident. It was to be ODLH's last hurrah, in terms of Oscar being competitive. Later in the year, Ricky Hatton boarded the Pattern with tote bag and a traveling band from the United Kingdom. A good win, no complaints, because the Pattern is now changed to Money. No more legacy-building, not that it was of interest from its choices and actions, respectively. It's now about making cents, including 50 Cent. Sadly in 2008, the man know known as "Money" retires, with an undefeated, smaller and fierce short-armed pay-per-view star Miguel Cotto available and a taller long-armed Margarito conqueror Paul Williams, extremely available.

January 2009 opens with Mosley having a career resurrecting win over Margarito, making him the obvious lucrative opponent for Leonard Ellerbe's best friend who announced a comeback in May. Not a chance! Instead, the smaller and less threatening Juan Manuel Marquez was asked to travel north ten pounds for a pay-per-view destination. Speaking of ten pounds, now we can insert Winky Wright to this list of missed operable opponents. This undefeated shot-caller trash talked about a potential fight with Wright in 04 and could've added the same amount of weight asked of Mr. Marquez for his "comeback" bout set for September 2009. To no one's surprise, he refused to add the weight to fight Winky, who at that time was imploring for a super fight with many big names of the day. They clashed on **********.com's Mayweather Mondays and Winky Wednesdays. This writer won't forget the build-up from week to week as these two held court at this website weekly.

After Marquez was dispatched via unanimous decision, Shane needed to climb into the ring and come out of character to challenge the former drop-out of Ottawa Hills High School in Grand Rapids, Michigan. Finally cornered, he accepted and beat Shane over a 12-round unanimous decision seven months later. Next; Manny Pacquiao, with blood test demands, character assassinations implicating the Philippine icon of using steroids, various court cases [Pacquiao filed a defamation suit against the Mayweathers, while Money already had a case pending for assaulting his children's mother] and match-making personalities not agreeing to terms made it difficult to finalize a deal. This lasted over the course of 2009, 2010 and 2011 hurting all involved, mainly Pugilism on the world stage. When a boxer has a trend of avoiding top notch competition, it should be taken into consideration very seriously by writers, fighters and fans. Lineal middleweight king, Sergio Martinez, has called Junior to meet at 154 a few times; no response was ever made public from the Mayweather team. Yet folks continue to "believe" in a person who has clearly demonstrated since 1999 a lack of self-assurance.

"If you claim you're the best fighter in the world pound for pound fight! Don't make any excuses" James Toney, criticizing his Grand Rapids neighbor.

Fact to Consider: established in this essay are E L E V E N men that this once 84-6 amateur didn't fight.

This practitioner lacks true faith in self that champions who dare to be great possess - like Ray Leonard for Roberto Duran, Thomas Hearns for Marvelous Marvin Hagler or Meldrick Taylor for Julio Cesar Chavez. This is true pound-for-pound reputation, not a fighter's attributes or the handling of much aforementioned C-rated opposition. Pound-for-Pound begins internally with the willingness to challenge yourself through your peers and ends externally with succeeding. Not monopolizing opponents for less risk / most money over a long period. Moreover, improper labeling of this status is equivalent to the music industry calling today's half-naked and sex-selling songstresses diva, when Aretha Franklin, Gladys Knight and Dionne Warwick sung and performed to the very essence of this term with grace and never cast their pearls amongst swine.

With usage of phrases such as: didn't fight, promoters disagreeing or the networks didn't come to terms, this is a very high number of misses for a boxer to be dubbed "pound-for-pound". There is no evidence of a real threatening fight like the aforementioned 80's comparisons. In the court of law it's viewed as defrauding the public because pound-for-pound is contrary to this subject's 42 -0 dossier.

Sugar Ray Robinson was the first fighter to be christened Pound-for-Pound. He went 40 - 0 in his first two years as a pro, beating Sammy Angott 2x, Marty Servo 2x, Fritzie Zivic 2x and Jake LaMotta once. Angott and Zivic were former World Champions, while Servo and LaMotta would be years later. This is when the word champion meant King of the Throne. Today, we need to keep the bar high. At the beginning of his eleventh year Robbie was 129 - 1 with the sole defeat avenged four times! Pound-for-Pound calculus; Robinson demonstrates willingness within 24 months as a pro versus four threatening peers, beats all of them and grants rematches. Jeff Mayweather's nephew has 42 contests in 15 years with one willing bout against Castillo. I just vomited writing the previous sentence because it's a blasphemous half-hearted comparison.

Is it easy to dissect a person's record? Not with this amount of missed peers. Pacquiao fought Marco Antonio Barrera twice, Erik Morales and Marquez three times. Manny is 7-1-1 with these pound-for-pound peers. Paul Williams, from 2007-2010 would literally campaign in 3 weight classes searching for the best challenges. Mosley accepted challenges from a young Oscar De La Hoya, the late Vernon Forrest and Wright. Take a peak at Oscar's opposition choices - impressive! James Toney is the last prizefighter to fight threatening peers six weeks apart in Michael Nunn and Reggie Johnson in 1991. He fought and sought the best all the way to a 2006 draw with Hasim Rahman. James is noteworthy and is consistent with true pound-for-pound accolades.

Deception smothers reality.

The public should be steered properly of who's who because they too can see this trend - now and then - but they aren't writers. Writers should be the voice of the voiceless and write as fighters fought in the 40's -- with integrity and honesty. Springs Toledo is one of those writers, for his impeccable research and new information revealed within each expose' on living and deceased fistic greats.

Congratulations to Andre Ward for an incredible run since his 2009 win over Edison Miranda and to date against Carl Froch to ascend to the top of the 168-pound honors...Nat Fleischer would've been proud.

Good news, Bert Sugar is feeling better.

In other news the sky is blue. Obviously mayweather has been ducking competition forever, The majority of the boxing public knows this.

[Ham Porter]

And Stevie Johnson never called Floyd out.

When there's a fight to be made for one of HBO's star boxers, you usually can bank on a battle over the opponent. This time the network is at odds with junior lightweight champion Floyd Mayweather Jr.

Of course, this is nothing new. After all Mayweather once referred to an HBO contract offer worth millions as "slave wages" and then sat out for seven months in a snit.

Now he's scheduled to make his lightweight debut April 20, but the battle rages over who he'll fight. He was supposed to challenge champion Jose Luis Castillo but decided to take a non-title bout first to get used to 135 pounds.

HBO was fine with that but took exception to the offer of faded ex-featherweight champ Alejandro Gonzalez and rejected him.

HBO and Mayweather promoter Bob Arum prefer that he take a higher-profile, more competitive fight, ideally vs. former two-time champ Stevie Johnston. But Mayweather and his manager, James Prince, have balked.

"No one can communicate with Floyd," Arum said. "It's like talking to the wall. I said 'Fight Stevie Johnston.' Floyd said, 'I don't want to fight him. He's a bum.' "

Arum said it was "likely" HBO would simply bench Mayweather and give his date away instead of arguing over opponents. "They're not going to put up with this much longer," he said.

Johnston certainly would like to fight Mayweather. "I already talked to Stevie about it, and he's ready to go," manager Cameron Dunkin said. "I'd get him a fight right away to get him warmed up, but I don't think Floyd wants to fight Stevie. James Prince and I spoke, and he told me that was the fight they didn't want."

Mayweather also expressed interest in staying at 130 pounds to fight Acelino "Popo" Freitas, who last week unified two titles. But that fight is unrealistic for now because Freitas is with Showtime.

"I can see them fighting down the road at 135 pounds but not right now," Freitas promoter Artie Pelullo said.

Prince said Thursday that they'd also be interested in pursuing Stevie Forbes, also a 130-pound titlist.

Arum insisted that the talk of staying at 130 was Mayweather's emotional reaction after watching Freitas beat Joel Casamayor.

"Floyd will probably go to the March 16 welterweight title fight between Antonio Margarito and Antonio Diaz and decide he wants to go to welterweight because he can beat them, too," Arum said. "He should fight Stevie, then Castillo," Arum said. "Then maybe Freitas will move up, and it could be a big fight. But it's not right now."

HBO's Kery Davis was disappointed Mayweather turned down Castillo and is more frustrated by his reluctance to face Johnston.

"I'll save my voice for Mayweather. That's going to be a long conversation," said Davis, whose voice was a whisper this week because of the flu.

Johnston, who lost his title to Castillo and drew with him in a rematch, is Castillo's mandatory challenger. But he's willing to risk the position to fight Mayweather, with the winner facing Castillo.

"Stevie is still a very hungry guy," Dunkin said. "And you never hear a whine out of him, unlike some other guys."

http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/sports/boxing/2002-01-18-mayweather-hbo.htm

[Pacquiao'd]

Casamayor: Would have liked to see it, but Floyd fought THE FIGHTS and beat THE GUYS at 130. Genaro Hernandez and Diego Corrales.

Johnston: He lost to Castillo, who Floyd fought. He also lost to Lazcano. There was never any demand for this fight.

Freitas: He didn't really get a big win till 2002 against Casamayor, when Floyd was already up to 135 fighting Castillo. And he didn't move to 135 until 2004, when Floyd was well on his way to 140. Ended up losing in 2004 to Corrales anyways. Not a fight that needed to happen by any means.

Mosley: In his prime, Shane was already at 147-154 while Floyd was at 135-140. When Floyd got to 147 in 2005-2006, Shane wanted absolutely nothing to do with that fight.

Tszyu: When Floyd got to 140 in 2004, Tszyu was injured and not fighting. When he returned, Floyd voiced interest in fighting in him, as he had for years prior. Tszyu lost to Hatton, who Floyd tried to fight right after Gatti as well. Not Floyd's fault.

Williams: First legit win came in Summer of 2007, Floyd ended up fighting Hatton the end of that year, which was the bigger and better fight at the time anyways. Paul proceeded to drop a decision to Carlos Quintana 2 months after that fight. I don't remember anybody wanting to see that fight after Paul did that. He came back and beat Quintana the 2nd time around, then moved to 154. One of the most overstated "ducks" in recent memory.

Wright: Floyd was a 140 fighter at the time. He had absolutely zero obligation to fight a guy 2-3 weight classes bigger in 2005.

Martinez: Sergio Martinez is the Middleweight champion of the world. Floyd has no obligation to fight him.


Margarito has some merit that fight could have happened, but is it really a career changer looking back.....absolutely not. Pacquiao and Floyd....we've been there a million times. You can't singly blame one guy for that fight not taking place yet.

People are just adding names to rewrite history.

Just too many actual factuals here