Will Pacquiao's Legacy Supercede Duran?

[JOM'S]

SGL, Duran, Hearns & Hagler are among my favorite fighters of all time and I could not think of one without thinking about the other, their time has come upon us and they are now LEGENDS...

lets give time for present figthers to WRITE THEIR OWN LEGENDS ...

[JOM'S]

He hasn't passed Flash Elorde so let's make a comparison with Duran when he does OK?

i share your opinion BRO...

PAC has to catch up at home first then after that we shall see, the sky is still the limit ...

[JoartCC]

Unfortunately you cannot comprehend the obvious conditions of a fighters career, therefore I will viod your comments and continue to respond to those that manifest logical boxing knowledge, which is exemplified in posts.

Conditions are ok and I accept excuses dude. BUT ONLY IF YOU ARE ABLE TO PROVE THE NAYSAYERS WRONG AND YOU ARE ABLE TO FULFILL YOUR END OF THE EXCUSE.

Now tell me, was Duran able to do that? I accept valid excuses but did Duran validate those excuses whom you and other guys conjured up?

All I need to lambast your arguments is to point out the utter failures and losses he got from top elites and it's already a "no mas" moot point.

Results and the way you achieved them are the measure of greatness.

How can you consider Duran great top 10 p4p when he's a bad quitter and he got beat by all the elites of his era?

[El Invicto]

Conditions are ok and I accept excuses dude. BUT ONLY IF YOU ARE ABLE TO PROVE THE NAYSAYERS WRONG AND YOU ARE ABLE TO FULFILL YOUR END OF THE EXCUSE.

Now tell me, was Duran able to do that? I accept valid excuses but did Duran validate those excuses whom you and other guys conjured up?

All I need to lambast your arguments is to point out the utter failures and losses he got from top elites and it's already a "no mas" moot point.

Results and the way you achieved them are the measure of greatness.

How can you consider Duran great top 10 p4p when he's a bad quitter and he got beat by all the elites of his era?

When I state "conditions of a fighters career" I am refering to a former 118 fighter who's losses were to great legends at 147,154,160, not 135 or 140. I have seen the brutal 2 rounds that Duran experienced with Thomas Hearns time and time again. I noticed something that was clearly evident about that fight; Duran was outclassed by raw power which was being generated by a MUCH larger fighter (The Hagler/Duran fight was not a "brutal beating" as most of you are implying).

This post is not in attempt to discredit Hagler, Hearns or SLR, They are great legends and some of my favorite fighter. But when one is evaluating a boxers career, one must remember that weight increases are difficult. Duran, like many other fighters, increased in weight class. It just so happened that he jumped from 118 to 168 throughout his career. Imagine a fighter like JLC who started at 126, fighting at 160 with Bernard Hopkins. Doesn't that sound ridiculous? Unfortunately that was the reality of Duran's career. He captured titles in 4 weight classes (135,147,154,160).

[JoartCC]

When I state "conditions of a fighters career" I am refering to a former 118 fighter who's losses were to great legends at 147,154,160, not 135 or 140. I have seen the brutal 2 rounds that Duran experienced with Thomas Hearns time and time again. I noticed something that was clearly evident about that fight; Duran was outclassed by raw power which was being generated by a MUCH larger fighter (The Hagler/Duran fight was not a "brutal beating" as most of you are implying).

This post is not in attempt to discredit Hagler, Hearns or SLR, They are great legends and some of my favorite fighter. But when one is evaluating a boxers career, one must remember that weight increases are difficult. Duran, like many other fighters, increased in weight class. It just so happened that he jumped from 118 to 168 throughout his career. Imagine a fighter like JLC who started at 126, fighting at 160 with Bernard Hopkins. Doesn't that sound ridiculous? Unfortunately that was the reality of Duran's career. He captured titles in 4 weight classes (135,147,154,160).

BAh! Whatever you call it, that's still an excuse. You're still in denial, that's your fault.

But the fact is, DUran had numerous chances to validate those so-called excuses of yours and your company. But the question is... Did he? Nah-ah!

As I've said, I accept excuses if the fighter is able to overcome them and come up with positive results. But a fighter who continues to conjure up excuses but all he can ever show for himself are more excuses are the funny ones.

Because excuses which are not validates are mere ALIBIS.

[El Invicto]

BAh! Whatever you call it, that's still an excuse. You're still in denial, that's your fault.

But the fact is, DUran had numerous chances to validate those so-called excuses of yours and your company. But the question is... Did he? Nah-ah!

As I've said, I accept excuses if the fighter is able to overcome them and come up with positive results. But a fighter who continues to conjure up excuses but all he can ever show for himself are more excuses are the funny ones.
Because excuses which are not validates are mere ALIBIS.

This makes no sense.

You and MannyP express yourselves very similarly. You do not present yourself as a very educated person when you post responses of this nature. You deterred the question that I asked you. Can you please answer it?

[BIGPOPPAPUMP]

Wrong.

I will just reiterate the points.

Duran is a "no mas" quitter and he got beat by all the elites of his era. And he got beat bad. It's either via a humiliating decision or a KO or he got so frustrated he quit.

A lot of people point out the Duran's greatness emanates because he had numerous titles on different weight divisions. Fine, if that's how you base your arguments, fine with me.

But the bottomline is, he lost to all the elites of his era. And the only reason why stayed so long is because in his prime, he handled his money affairs so bad, by the time he realized it, he was already broke as brokeback. He stayed so long only because he needed the money.

Duran beat some of the greatest pound for pound fighters in the history of the sport. I don't even want to go into the entire history of who Duran beat, because your statement of Duran being beat by all of the elites of his era shows that you have no idea what you are talking about.

[Sttuddahboy619]

Your the type who really gets hurt by your fave fighter losing!

I agree totally.

[JoartCC]

This makes no sense.

You and MannyP express yourselves very similarly. You do not present yourself as a very educated person when you post responses of this nature. You deterred the question that I asked you. Can you please answer it?

Very similar? Well, I would consider that a compliment. Thanks. He's the best poster here with the best record in predicting fights. Im a newbie, that's a hell of a compliment.

Not educated? How? I asked you a simple yes or no and yet you can't answer.

Is that educated?

[JoartCC]

Duran beat some of the greatest pound for pound fighters in the history of the sport. I don't even want to go into the entire history of who Duran beat, because your statement of Duran being beat by all of the elites of his era shows that you have no idea what you are talking about.

No idea? How?

Duran vs Hagler = beat beat beat
Duran vs Hearns = KTFO'd
Duran vs Ray = "no mas" quitter

Need I say more?