Heavyweights seem to have gotten bigger but lost skill

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  • Welsh Jon
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    #21
    Originally posted by LarryXXX
    Sure today we have a super heavy weight crop of heavies,but the dedication, skill ans will seems to have vanished. size does not equal talent or skill level at all and makes you wonder if most are only at heavyweight due to laziness
    Yes

    This

    A thousand times this

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      #22
      Originally posted by LarryXXX
      Sure today we have a super heavy weight crop of heavies,but the dedication, skill ans will seems to have vanished. size does not equal talent or skill level at all and makes you wonder if most are only at heavyweight due to laziness
      It's true, but there is light at the end of the title. That light is called Tyson Fury. Hope for the HW division.

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      • Tom Cruise
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        #23
        Originally posted by toshmurph
        To be honest I don't see Joshua being the savior of the division that people make him out to be! If you're looking for a well schooled up and coming heavyweight look at Joseph Parker, the kid from New Zealand...

        Skill wise there are some good heavies out there! The Klitschko's without doubt, david Haye if he ever fights again! solis if fit, but I don't have any hope for the guy any more! Mike Perez, when in the frame of mind and Bryant Jennings are all very good..

        I'd add Malik Scott too, but he's the Zab Judah of the heavyweight division in my eyes...
        Parker is great fun to watch, dodgy defence at the moment but he has great power and speed.

        On the Wlad/Lepaei (sp?) card aint he?

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        • Dr Rumack
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          #24
          What do you mean by 'seem' to have gotten bigger? Is there no way we can know for sure?

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            #25
            Originally posted by Dr Rumack
            What do you mean by 'seem' to have gotten bigger? Is there no way we can know for sure?
            if only there was a way to measure ppl size.

            like a way to know how much a person weighs or how tall they are or something.

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            • Dr Rumack
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              #26
              Originally posted by Left Hook Tua
              if only there was a way to measure ppl size.

              like a way to know how much a person weighs or how tall they are or something.
              For all we know Larry's screens have been getting smaller

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              • Foreign Soil
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                #27
                And yet the HW division isn't the worst division in boxing anymore. The sport basically has pockets of talent with several wasteland divisions. Too many weightclasses. If more CW's moved up, like Haye, Adamek did then there'd be more skillz n movement.

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by toshmurph
                  To be honest I don't see Joshua being the savior of the division that people make him out to be! If you're looking for a well schooled up and coming heavyweight look at Joseph Parker, the kid from New Zealand....
                  What is it that you don't like about Joshua?

                  Haven't seen much of Joseph Parker but I'll keep an eye out. He's the Samoan kid, right?

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                  • Left Hook Tua
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by Dr Rumack
                    For all we know Larry's screens have been getting smaller
                    true.

                    larry, did you buy a smaller tv or laptop recently?

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                    • cupocity303
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                      #30
                      Can we call this the Income inequality....hrrr I mean Skill inequality. Have the 1% got all the skills, discipline and superior genetics while the working class 99% stiffs are OCCUPYING the heavyweight division and are too lazy, entitled and intellectually inferior to do anything about it.

                      It's simple, get rid of the Affirmative action for Boxers and merge the Cruiserweight and Heavyweight division, instead of calling for a Super-Heavyweight division which would ruin the sport even further and the devalue the history of the Heavyweight Title. Bring up some 200 pounders who are the 1950's equivalent to a Heavyweight anyway. They're faster, leaner and have some discipline as they too are required to make weight like the smaller divisions.
                      Last edited by cupocity303; 03-13-2014, 07:44 PM.

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