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  • #11
    Originally posted by Fantastic One View Post
    They're not black enough for you I take it?


    Seeing videos of old fights from the HW division, a lot weren't all that either, just fancy names with the right color/flag.
    **** out of here with your racial agenda

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    • #12
      Originally posted by LarryXXX View Post
      Sure today we have a super heavy weight crop of heavies,but the dedication, skill ans will seems to have vanished. size does not equal talent or skill level at all and makes you wonder if most are only at heavyweight due to laziness
      Lazy fighters, and maybe **** trainers. I think the division has been stagnant for so long that few of these guys have the motivation to really push themselves. The greatest glory of the division in this day isn't very great. Just theorizing.

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      • #13
        Wlad is levels above any heavy for the past decade, you can't blame him.

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        • #14
          example at lower weight classes they're sparring guys with a variety of styles/skill level, from multiple countries, from different weight classes.

          example you go to robert garcia's gym, you got americans, mexicans, even filipinos, a lot of champions.

          a 122 guy can spar 115, 118, 126, 130, 135 guys, etc.

          how many skilled 6'4 plus 230 plus sparring partners running around?

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          • #15
            You look at the lower divisions and see speed,movement,power and a solid skill set..then you look at the heavyweights and it is just big dudes looking for 1 ko punch with nothing to set it up

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            • #16
              Originally posted by LarryXXX View Post
              You look at the lower divisions and see speed,movement,power and a solid skill set..then you look at the heavyweights and it is just big dudes looking for 1 ko punch with nothing to set it up
              lol there not going to move as fast as welterweights, what do you expect?

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              • #17
                We're living in a world of Primo Carneras

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                • #18
                  Even someone like Tommy Morrison showed much more ability than most of the current heavys. It's like everyone forgot how to throw fluid combinations.

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                  • #19
                    Originally posted by ShoulderRoll View Post
                    You're right, Larry. The lack of skill in the heavyweight division these days is obvious and sad to see.

                    Maybe Anthony Joshua can change that if he keeps developing. But I probably shouldn't mention him, he has the wrong color as far as Fantastic One is concerned.
                    To be honest I don't see Joshua being the savior of the division that people make him out to be! If you're looking for a well schooled up and coming heavyweight look at Joseph Parker, the kid from New Zealand...

                    Skill wise there are some good heavies out there! The Klitschko's without doubt, david Haye if he ever fights again! solis if fit, but I don't have any hope for the guy any more! Mike Perez, when in the frame of mind and Bryant Jennings are all very good..

                    I'd add Malik Scott too, but he's the Zab Judah of the heavyweight division in my eyes...

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                    • #20
                      ya the ones they hype are. it will go in cycles though in a way it always has some smaller type with alot skills will come along eventually

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