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  • racostaa
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    #11
    Originally posted by Jocknerd94
    Golden Boy + Top Rank= No fight. This is out of the fighters hands now. They can push all they want but if the promotions won't work together its not gonna happen. The only disgrace right now are fans who talk bad about people who are world class and humble like Santa Cruz. Judging by your post history you are a Cuban fan who is biased and blames everything on non Cuban fighters.
    Part II And is true, MExicans fighters are not willing to fight Cubans. They have the sport kidnapped with calculated fights and protecting the champions. We want to see the best fights. If a Mexican win a Cuban is fine, he will get my respect, but you can't kidnap the sport making only fights with fighters you calculate your champion can win. You must do the fights between the bests in your division and not kidnap the belt. Just make the best fights or recognize your champions are a second class fighters and must vacant the belt for the right fighter be able to get it. Canelo, Mickey Garcia and probably Santa Cruz are ducking and are not what I thought was the real Mexicans brave champions like it was

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    • LouIE G
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      #12
      Originally posted by racostaa
      And then Rigo?. Rigo said he doub Santa cruz really will fight. This generation of mexicans champions are a disgrace and a duckers
      You and zuz are shiat, and you dont know shiat about boxing!!

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      • LouIE G
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        #13
        Originally posted by racostaa
        Part II And is true, MExicans fighters are not willing to fight Cubans. They have the sport kidnapped with calculated fights and protecting the champions. We want to see the best fights. If a Mexican win a Cuban is fine, he will get my respect, but you can't kidnap the sport making only fights with fighters you calculate your champion can win. You must do the fights between the bests in your division and not kidnap the belt. Just make the best fights or recognize your champions are a second class fighters and must vacant the belt for the right fighter be able to get it. Canelo, Mickey Garcia and probably Santa Cruz are ducking and are not what I thought was the real Mexicans brave champions like it was
        Your shiat,and you dont know shiat about boxing.!iam telling you right now youngster iam gonna see how confident you are in your fighters,when canelo faces lara,mikey vs gamboa,and santa cruz vs rigo ill bet you your lunch money your cubans lose,since you want to make this into a personal thing,instead of a simple respectful boxing debate...also you wont be heard from after!wanna bet?
        Last edited by LouIE G; 03-12-2014, 10:34 AM.

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        • racostaa
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          #14
          Originally posted by drenlou
          Your shiat,and you dont know shiat about boxing.!iam telling you right now youngster iam gonna see how confident you are in your fighters,when canelo faces lara,mikey vs gamboa,and santa cruz vs rigo ill bet you your lunch money your cubans lose,since you want to make this into a personal thing,instead of a simple respectful boxing debate...also you wont be heard from after!wanna bet?
          great. Lets do it because your boxers are akways ducking. Mickey said is gamboa with the money and gamboa said on monday that he accept the money offered. So this fight is up to mickey now. Canela is a bussines man and said lara has to wait for cinderella because he is so busy.
          Man, your guys only pick the more easy fight and kidnap the sport. I hope they heard you, because by know they are a bunch of cowards jaja

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          • diarraisagod
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            #15
            Originally posted by racostaa
            For be the best you must win the best. If not you are a coward ducking or a second fight class fighter
            Originally posted by racostaa
            Part II And is true, MExicans fighters are not willing to fight Cubans. They have the sport kidnapped with calculated fights and protecting the champions. We want to see the best fights. If a Mexican win a Cuban is fine, he will get my respect, but you can't kidnap the sport making only fights with fighters you calculate your champion can win. You must do the fights between the bests in your division and not kidnap the belt. Just make the best fights or recognize your champions are a second class fighters and must vacant the belt for the right fighter be able to get it. Canelo, Mickey Garcia and probably Santa Cruz are ducking and are not what I thought was the real Mexicans brave champions like it was
            These guys are professional prize fighters, their job is to put on entertaining fights that people want to see. As good as Rigo is, not many people give a ****, he's boring, with few fans and there's not much money for fighting him. Santa Cruz and Frampton are both better supported than he is and they'd be doing him a favour by fighting him.

            All over the world you see fighters refuse to fight someone until the money is right, another Cuban is supposedly doing it now, Gamboa for a Garcia fight... The problem is Rigo isn't a draw and there's bugger all reason for these guys to fight him. There is more money and less risk elsewhere for the likes of Frampton and Santa Cruz, not to mention a significantly more fun fight. Call it what you want, I call it common sense.

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            • racostaa
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              #16
              Originally posted by diarraisagod
              These guys are professional prize fighters, their job is to put on entertaining fights that people want to see. As good as Rigo is, not many people give a ****, he's boring, with few fans and there's not much money for fighting him. Santa Cruz and Frampton are both better supported than he is and they'd be doing him a favour by fighting him.

              All over the world you see fighters refuse to fight someone until the money is right, another Cuban is supposedly doing it now, Gamboa for a Garcia fight... The problem is Rigo isn't a draw and there's bugger all reason for these guys to fight him. There is more money and less risk elsewhere for the likes of Frampton and Santa Cruz, not to mention a significantly more fun fight. Call it what you want, I call it common sense.
              mayweather is a defensive fighter and produce more money than anyone. A rigo santa cruz fight will produce more interest than a frampton fight. Im sure santa cruz wins. There is no challenge on this fight. Rigo is the challenge in thw division and if the promoters do their job good money will be get like mayweather does. Man, no more excuses. Leta see good fights

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              • diarraisagod
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                #17
                Originally posted by racostaa
                mayweather is a defensive fighter and produce more money than anyone. A rigo santa cruz fight will produce more interest than a frampton fight. Im sure santa cruz wins. There is no challenge on this fight. Rigo is the challenge in thw division and if the promoters do their job good money will be get like mayweather does. Man, no more excuses. Leta see good fights
                Yes Mayweather has, and it isn't his boxing style that made him his money, it's his mouth and loyal fan base, he understands you have to give people what they want to see and he has compensated for his boring (but brilliant) style with his personality outside the ring. Its a business and being good isn't enough.

                You have obviously never seen Frampton fight if you think it's a 1 sided beat down win for Santa Cruz.

                Casual interest you might be right about Rigo generating more interest than Frampton, but generating money, I doubt it. Frampton sells huge quan****** of tickets in Ireland to a loyal fan base, even if the Santa Cruz fight were to take place in America I would expect him to take a good number of fans over. In Ireland it would sell out, and it wouldn't even matter what else was on the card...

                I agree about watching the good fights, this is the best one. Two well supported, talented, entertaining fighters trying to knock the other one out. When people want to see Rigo fight then he might start getting the big names in the division.

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                • ElMeroChingon
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by racostaa
                  mayweather is a defensive fighter and produce more money than anyone. A rigo santa cruz fight will produce more interest than a frampton fight. Im sure santa cruz wins. There is no challenge on this fight. Rigo is the challenge in thw division and if the promoters do their job good money will be get like mayweather does. Man, no more excuses. Leta see good fights
                  Lol comparing rigo to mayweather.

                  They'e completely different fighters.

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                  • Jocknerd94
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                    #19
                    I think we all know that racostaa is a biased Cuban Fan. Every example you put up is laughable. Like I said Rigo and Cruz can't be made yet. Competing promotions won't allow it. Beside Cruz would be fighting a world class fighter in Frampton. Now how is that him being a coward exactly? Gamboa is also laughable. The same guy that has fought his girlfriend more then actual fighters in the last 3 years. Besides it not about Garcia being unwilling its about Gamboa being unreasonable. He prices himself out of every fight. Cuban fans have this unreasonable view of there fighters. They think Cubans are mistreated and ignored when in many cases the fighters hurt themselves when trying to get fights.

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                    • Tom Cruise
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                      #20
                      Would be hugely impressed if LSC could stop Frampton. He showed excellent chin and toughness in the Martinez fight (who can definitely crack).

                      His best bet stoppage wise is if Frampton uses a lot of energy moving around the ring early and LSC (with his crazy stamina) would take advantage and force a refs stoppage

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