Mayweather earned it the hard way now he calls the shots dont like dont watch

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Originally Posted by DeadLikeMe
Then additionally lost to Provodnikov according to many of the same posters. I'm sure plenty would have said he lost to JMM also except their hatred of JMM for KOing Pac seemingly outweighs their general enmity towards black fighters. Personally, I do think it is a good solid fight. Like you however, I am confused how people who spent a year or more talking about how Bradley was a feather-duster fraud can declare this a great fight? I mean, if he lost 11-1 or 10-2 to Pac like some of the atrocious scorecards I've seen on here indicate and then lost to Provodnikov. I'm just wondering how this can be a great fight in their eyes just by using their own metrics.

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Originally Posted by smoothsmg
Exactly what i am saying. Some of these posters on here might say Bradley has lost 3 fights in a row, yet this is such a great fight. I think its more about just praising manny honestly.




Hmmmm, I see you like to make things up in your head and go with it. Neither myself or DeadLikeMe stated that Marquez beat bradley. Talk about a joke. WOW

I stated in this and other threads that Bradley vs Manny fight is better than Floyd vs Maidana. You and DeadLikeMe came back and tried to show me that Bradley is not all that and that even some Manny fans said so over the last 2 years. Right?

Now while being in another thread, I got curious and spotted DeadLikeMe picking Bradley to beat Manny by UD. So then why are you guys even arguing this point? At least DeadLikeMe has proven that he believes that Manny will lose. Yet you come in this thread to argue why I'm not saying that Manny is cherry picking Bradley?

I know it must be because you want to protect Floyd's pick at all costs and downplay Manny's better pick.

[rayb112]

Mayweather's fans first line of defence for their man is Pacquiao.


Fan A: "Mayweather-Maidana is a **** fight."


Fl*mo: "B-b-b-b-but what about Brandon Rios?"


Fan B: "Man, Floyd is such a hypocritical little b*tch for requesting a catchweight."


Fl*mo: "B-b-b-b-but what about Pacquiao and Cotto?"

its a sh^tty fight to you because you don't think Maidana can win but you think Lara would give Floyd problems...But the truth he would school both of them and after you would scream Maidana was bum and Lara was fixed or overrated...

[DeadLikeMe]

I stated in this and other threads that Bradley vs Manny fight is better than Floyd vs Maidana. You and DeadLikeMe came back and tried to show me that Bradley is not all that and that even some Manny fans said so over the last 2 years. Right?

Now while being in another thread, I got curious and spotted DeadLikeMe picking Bradley to beat Manny by UD. So then why are you guys even arguing this point? At least DeadLikeMe has proven that he believes that Manny will lose. Yet you come in this thread to argue why I'm not saying that Manny is cherry picking Bradley?

I know it must be because you want to protect Floyd's pick at all costs and downplay Manny's better pick.

And you guys will be crying your asses off when he does UD him. Can't wait for the conspiracies.

[nickphilli]

Baldomir had a good year but is NOTHING to write home about but I see that you have his name listed. WHY MAN, JUST WHY?

Marquez had a good year at 130 and moved up to 135 and fought Floyd at 147. Again, but is NOTHING to write home about but I see that you have his name listed. WHY MAN, JUST WHY?


You can name 100 names like that but they mean nothing.

Holmes fought Ali. That is a big name but did that mean anything? No because that was not prime Ali. So STOP THE EXAGERATION!!!

Floyd said it himself that he fights for money. So just leave him fight for money. That is why he wants to be called Floyd "MONEY" Mayweather. It's all a business to him. If it meant more, then he would be fighting the best out there not Maidana or Guerrero or some other guy that was RECENTLY HYPED UP ..... go ask yourself where was Guerrero, Ortiz, Baldomir, Marquez, Maidana and so on the year before they fought Floyd? All HYPE yet you say that you follow boxing for a long time?

This exactly, TS says he has been following boxing for "a long time." Of those 10 world champions name me 3 of them that are ATG's that were PRIME when Mayweather beat them? The one ATG fighter that he could have fought Prime v Prime was Pacquiao, and he ran from it.

[JudasTrese]

Wow that is a big list of champions that floyd has conquered. But all of those names doesnt matter because his legacy will be judged by the fights he didnt take. I dont see him landing in the top 30 atg list. Pacquiao will be rated higher than him for sure. 20 years from now when all of floyd's money, fame and friends are gone and what's left are his worthless belts, he would **** his head on his shoulder roll so hard regretting why he didnt fight and beat the pacman. Shame.

[Espy]

What's ridiculous to me is how some people can claim that Floyd has never tested himself and fought all bums.

By that measure every opponent that loses to Floyd is a bum and thus nobody should get credit for beating them. By that measure we should also consider that anybody who lost to a former Floyd opponent is also a bum because they lost to a bum.

That means that every "good" or "great" fighter from Floyd's surrounding weight classes is a bum or does not have a credible resume. Since Floyd has never tested himself against these opponents it is clear that these opponents are not tests.

This means that we are actually all watching a farce. I'm surprised all of you guys who think that these guys suck haven't stepped up, started boxing, and replaced Floyd as the PPV king with yourself.

You guys do realize by saying that Floyd has never tested himself and fought bums that you are stating that JMM was never a test and also a bum. That means that Manny Pacquaio (whom I'm assuming is some of you guys' favorite boxer to beat Floyd) lost to a bum. Does that mean if Pacquaio were to lose to Floyd that he would be a bum too? Does that mean if Floyd shuts out Manny that Manny wasn't a test?

You can't have it both ways.

Clearly Floyd could have picked better opponents for some of his fights but at the same time it's not like other ATG's that were mentioned in this thread fought the #2 contender every single time they fought after winning their first belt.

I obviously do not believe that Manny is a bum in any way shape or form. I don't believe that any professional boxer is a bum. There are differing levels of talent. Sometimes the fights just can't be made, at these times clearer underdogs are given a chance to shine. Unfortunately while these fights would be deemed as at least somewhat competitive for other fights; Floyd's talent level causes people to say that Floyd is cherry picking. I seriously doubt if Pac fought Maidana instead of Bradley that people would say Pac is cherry picking. I think Pac would destroy Maidana but I still think that would be a great fight. I think that if May fought Bradley and beat him people would say that it was a cherry pick because Floyd knew Bradley was all wrong for him.

I seriously understand but fail to understand how people can hate Floyd so much. I understand that he is arrogant, but how does that affect you personally to inspire hate? I don't understand it, like it's the same with Lebron James where people truly HATE him for the decision. Like what the hell is wrong with you people? You can dislike these people but to downplay and diss Mayweather is ridiculous.

I will leave you with this: no matter how much you attempt to belittle Mayweather he will still be regarded as one of the best to ever do it. Instead of hating on that, why don't you just sit back and witness and appreciate history and a truly transcendent talent as he continues to dominate the sport we all love.

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I forgot to add this point: if Pacquaio were to fight through Mayweather's resume it is difficult to suggest he would be undefeated.

If Mayweather were to fight through Pacquaio's resume we can't conclude definitively that Mayweather would be undefeated (since there are some great opponents), but we can give Mayweather higher odds at doing this compared to Pac.

(Pac lost to JMM, Mayweather hasn't lost to any similar opponents.)

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And you guys will be crying your asses off when he does UD him. Can't wait for the conspiracies.

What happens in the ring may be different than the expectations but by seeing that you picked Bradley, you are admitting that the fight is not a cherry pick. Everyone knows that of course .... yet for some strange reason, you pick that fight to try to downplay the TRUE cherry picking of Floyd. I wonder why?

The lengths you Floyd fans go to try to protect Floyd is amazing.