How long would Frazier last against Wladimir?

[Richard Wadd]

U people are funny

Wald would try to hug him like gay but Joe would beat his azz.

Frazier would skull fu-k Wladimir, go get drunk and sing Mustang Sally and then get a blow job from Hayden Pantierre

[JTfloyd]

Frazier had the speed and head movement to get inside that jab. It seems to me the only way Wlad wins is by clinching, holding and basically strangling the life out of the fight. If the ref lets Frazier fight on the inside he brutalises Wlad.

Essentially the only way Klit wins is if gets a ref that favours him, yet half the posters on this thread are acting like Wlad would do to Frasier what Foreman did. Prime Foreman was one of the most destructive punchers of all time. Prime Wlad was (is?) one of the most conservative, safety-first boxers of all time. There is no way Prime Wlad destroys Prime Frazier. If Wlad wins it would be an ugly, dull victory.

Exactly. The Klit fans can believe what they want, but the fact that a prime Wlad got tko'd by Lamon Brewster says it all. He threw everything at Lamon, knocked him down and subsequently got hurt when Brewster didn't fold. For all his talent, Brewster wasn't on Frazier's level when it came to defense or cutting off the ring. As long as Klit doesn't have a ref that favored his particular brand of "defense", it would be a matter of time until Joe's left hook found its mark. Frazier was an elite fighter with an awkward style, endless stamina and an unparalleled WILL to win. Wlad is a gentle giant who avoids contact to the point of clinching a dozen or more times a round. But according to Klit fans he'll turn aggressive against the best fighter he'll ever face, and bomb Joe out like Foreman did.

[Xpert]

Exactly. The Klit fans can believe what they want, but the fact that a prime Wlad got tko'd by Lamon Brewster says it all. He threw everything at Lamon, knocked him down and subsequently got hurt when Brewster didn't fold. For all his talent, Brewster wasn't on Frazier's level when it came to defense or cutting off the ring. As long as Klit doesn't have a ref that favored his particular brand of "defense", it would be a matter of time until Joe's left hook found its mark. Frazier was an elite fighter with an awkward style, endless stamina and an unparalleled WILL to win. Wlad is a gentle giant who avoids contact to the point of clinching a dozen or more times a round. But according to Klit fans he'll turn aggressive against the best fighter he'll ever face, and bomb Joe out like Foreman did.

We're not talking about the lesser experienced Wlad here, we're talking about prime Wlad, the Wlad that came to be AFTER he learned his lesson from the Brewster fight. Prime Wlad has never been knocked out.

I just edited the opening post to clarify that it's prime Wlad we're talking here.

[roxy]

I think Frazier would stop Wlad.

[Curtiz]

Fraziers style is ALL wrong for Wlad, jab or not.

[Richard Wadd]

U need an uppercut to beat Frazier. Sure Waldo can land on guys like Scam Peter but he is no smokin Joe.

That hug like a sissy stuff won't work. You have to fight it out, not freak out when the other guys comes within a 10 inch Vicinity of your face.

[JTfloyd]

We're not talking about the lesser experienced Wlad here, we're talking about prime Wlad, the Wlad that came to be AFTER he learned his lesson from the Brewster fight. Prime Wlad has never been knocked out.

I just edited the opening post to clarify that it's prime Wlad we're talking here.

Actually son, Klit had been a pro for almost 8 years when he folded against Brewster. If you're trying to argue he wasn't in his prime at the age of 28, after 8 years of professional experience, then you're an goddamn moron. Wlad was in his prime when he got destroyed by Sanders and wilted against Brewster. That's TWICE that Wlad was knocked out/stopped in his prime. The only difference between that version of Wlad and the current one, is his adoption of a Ruiz AKA huggy bear defense. Klit couldn't handle the pressure of POVETKIN without clutching, for ****'s sake. LMFAO. Joe Frazier would have no problem avoiding Wlad's jab and subsequently beating the fight out of him.

[NChristo]

sanders was 6'4 and frazier is 6'0

Joe is way to short to even hit wlad in the face

Frazier, as we know, is famous for having only 6 inch arms.

[Weltschmerz]

Frazier, as we know, is famous for having only 6 inch arms.

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That's what I want to put in the heads of these rose tainted glasses nostalgics. Frazier won't get on the inside (Wlad will nullify him by simply leaning on him and tying him up), and in his arsenal Frazier doesn't really have much else. It will be like a Sam Peter fight, and I believe Peter in the first fight would do better than Frazier would. Says it all. A KO or clear UD in typical Wlad fashion.

[Richard Wadd]

Also, Wlad was nowhere near his prime when he lost to Sanders, Purity and Brewster, but Frazier was prime or close to it when he got demolished by Foreman easily.