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  • ~AK49~
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    #41
    Originally posted by Cuauhtémoc1520
    lol, he looks two weight classes bigger than Cotto. Look at his arms, legs and chest. He's 3 inches taller than him and remember that Cotto is a small 154.

    Martinez is much bigger and that will cause problems for Cotto, believe that.
    The only thing thats noticeably bigger is Sergio's arms/shoulders. He's a tad taller, but besides that, everything else is a push, with cotto probably having the edge in lower body.

    But really, all I'm saying is the size advantage isnt anything drastic, nothing that cotto can't overcome. More than anything, this fight will be decided by how/what game plan cotto comes into the fight with. He he tries to be a cute boxer from the outside, he's gonna get picked apart probably. If he is an aggressive bull, working inside/getting physical with martinez, then cotto has a great chance to pull it off.

    Cottos a strong mofo, and Sergio is a finesse guy. If anything, advantage cotto with the leverage. But yeah, nothing cotto hasn't faced size wise.

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    • Cuauhtémoc1520
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      #42
      Originally posted by ~AK49~
      The only thing thats noticeably bigger is Sergio's arms/shoulders. He's a tad taller, but besides that, everything else is a push, with cotto probably having the edge in lower body.

      But really, all I'm saying is the size advantage isnt anything drastic, nothing that cotto can't overcome. More than anything, this fight will be decided by how/what game plan cotto comes into the fight with. He he tries to be a cute boxer from the outside, he's gonna get picked apart probably. If he is an aggressive bull, working inside/getting physical with martinez, then cotto has a great chance to pull it off.

      Cottos a strong mofo, and Sergio is a finesse guy. If anything, advantage cotto with the leverage. But yeah, nothing cotto hasn't faced size wise.
      3 inches taller and two weight classes bigger isn't an issue? What world do you live in?

      In boxing that's a huge advantage. Cotto can try and bully Martinez, but if you think he can do that when a 180lb Chavez Jr couldn't for 11 rounds and a half, good luck.

      Size will play a big part, more than strategy. Cotto always wants to get inside and force himself on fighters, the question is can he do it against a very slick and much bigger opponent like Martinez.

      I say no and if Martinez is anything like he was, Cotto is getting put to sleep.

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        #43
        Originally posted by Cuauhtémoc1520
        3 inches taller and two weight classes bigger isn't an issue? What world do you live in?
        Martinez is a small middleweight. Hell, margarito/clottey/many other cotto opponents have walked out to the ring weighing more than martinez does. And most importantly, he's a finesse guy. A small middleweight who isnt physical whatsoever.....is too physical for one of the more physical fighters of this gen? Yeah okay.....

        Originally posted by Cuauhtémoc1520
        In boxing that's a huge advantage. Cotto can try and bully Martinez, but if you think he can do that when a 180lb Chavez Jr couldn't for 11 rounds and a half, good luck.
        Lol at bringing up the ****** chavez. He didn't cut the ring off, didn't get physical, and refused to let his hands go.

        Not to mention the whole problem of cotto being 100 times more skilled than chavez.

        Originally posted by Cuauhtémoc1520
        Size will play a big part, more than strategy. Cotto always wants to get inside and force himself on fighters, the question is can he do it against a very slick and much bigger opponent like Martinez.
        When has he not been able to do it when he wanted to?

        Originally posted by Cuauhtémoc1520
        I say no and if Martinez is anything like he was, Cotto is getting put to sleep.
        10 tril?

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          #44
          [QUOTE=~AK49~;14320303]
          Martinez is a small middleweight. Hell, margarito/clottey/many other cotto opponents have walked out to the ring weighing more than martinez does. And most importantly, he's a finesse guy. A small middleweight who isnt physical whatsoever.....is too physical for one of the more physical fighters of this gen? Yeah okay.....
          Yet he's bigger than Cotto. Also, because he's slick, doesn't mean he isn't physical. He can punch with the best of them.


          Lol at bringing up the ****** chavez. He didn't cut the ring off, didn't get physical, and refused to let his hands go.

          Not to mention the whole problem of cotto being 100 times more skilled than chavez.
          Yet he almost knocked out Martinez..lol Your saying Martinez is 100 X more skilled than Jr, so that agrees with me then.


          When has he not been able to do it when he wanted to?
          Margarito



          10 tril?
          You are on.

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            #45
            Cotto has T-Rex arms, and he's moving up to a weight class where his power will be limited and effective in spurts, so it's safe to say if Martinez is at just 70%, he'll crush Cotto.

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              #46
              Originally posted by Cuauhtémoc1520

              Yet he's bigger than Cotto. Also, because he's slick, doesn't mean he isn't physical. He can punch with the best of them.
              Oh I dont disagree that martinez has punching power. Big difference tho in punching power, and being physical, moreover being strong in physicality.

              Originally posted by Cuauhtémoc1520
              Yet he almost knocked out Martinez..lol Your saying Martinez is 100 X more skilled than Jr, so that agrees with me then.
              When the big boy let his hands go, yeah, martinez got caught a good one. And i was referring to cotto being more skilled than chavez, theres no comparison. Chavez follows a guy around the ring like a lost puppy, while cotto will cut the ring off. Etc.



              Originally posted by Cuauhtémoc1520
              Margarito
              I dont see this as being a valid example, and possibly is an example on the contrary. Their first fight cotto didn't game plan to work inside. He was too full of himself in his skills and power.

              Second fight tho cotto did game plan to get physical with martinez, working on the inside, turning him, workkng angles, etc.





              Originally posted by Cuauhtémoc1520
              You are on.
              Yezzir

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                #47
                [QUOTE]
                Originally posted by ~AK49~
                Oh I dont disagree that martinez has punching power. Big difference tho in punching power, and being physical, moreover being strong in physicality.
                Martinez isn't strong physically? LOL


                When the big boy let his hands go, yeah, martinez got caught a good one. And i was referring to cotto being more skilled than chavez, theres no comparison. Chavez follows a guy around the ring like a lost puppy, while cotto will cut the ring off. Etc.
                You failed to mention the beating Chavez Jr took for 11 rounds. I don't think for one second Cotto could have took half of the shots that Jr took. If Margarito hit him, Martinez will most definitely.


                I dont see this as being a valid example, and possibly is an example on the contrary. Their first fight cotto didn't game plan to work inside. He was too full of himself in his skills and power.

                Second fight tho cotto did game plan to get physical with martinez, working on the inside, turning him, workkng angles, etc.
                Sorry to break this to you, but you should watch the fights over again. Cotto did nothing different in the second fight. As a matter of fact, in the first fight Cotto win the first 7 rounds outside a good shot Marg hit him with in the 6th.

                The difference in the second fight, and I know you won't admit this, is that Marg was shot. His eye was done, he was done. Shortly after he retired.


                Yezzir
                You are on.

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                  #48
                  [QUOTE=Cuauhtémoc1520;14320582]

                  Martinez isn't strong physically? LOL
                  He's finesse


                  Originally posted by Cuauhtémoc1520
                  You failed to mention the beating Chavez Jr took for 11 rounds. I don't think for one second Cotto could have took half of the shots that Jr took. If Margarito hit him, Martinez will most definitely.
                  Ive already explained, cotto isnt half the ****** that chavez is. His defense is better, his offense is more crisp, his footwork is better, his timing is better, etc. Its apples to oranges, and bringing chavez up does nothing to discredit cottos chance.



                  [QUOTE=Cuauhtémoc1520;14320582Sorry to break this to you, but you should watch the fights over again. Cotto did nothing different in the second fight. As a matter of fact, in the first fight Cotto win the first 7 rounds outside a good shot Marg hit him with in the 6th.[/quote]

                  Lol. Cottos game plan in the second fight was nothing like the first fight. Cotto spent virtually no time on the ropes in the second fight, and in the first he was on the ropes virtually the entire fight. He kept the fight in the center of the ring, kept pivoting/turning margarito, changing angles, tieing up margarito, pushing margarito back, etc.

                  Its a night and day difference between the two fights. Perhaps you are the one who needs to revisit?

                  Originally posted by Cuauhtémoc1520
                  The difference in the second fight, and I know you won't admit this, is that Marg was shot. His eye was done, he was done. Shortly after he retired.
                  If by shot you mean wasnt allowed to use plaster, and cotto had a better gameplan, then sure, Agreed.

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                  • MindBat
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                    #49
                    Originally posted by Da Boxer
                    King Cotto got this and he senses Martinez fear. Cotto will walking him down, beat him and take his belt.

                    Sergio will be crying in Argentina.

                    If Cotto handles him well, Sergio will be singing...




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                      #50
                      Wow Cotto has some balls but he Fawked up taking this fight. Even a 50% Martinez will ruin Cotto.

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