Why do posters continue to discredit Floyd's resume because he ducked fighters???

[White_Knight]

I always chuckle at posts like this because for some reason the fighters that Mayweather always gets accused of ducking all happened to be promoted by Bob Arum.

Except Martinez, Williams, and Lara.

[M4RK]

Until he fights Manny he is a duck. The rest doesnt matter until then.

[sugarsmosley]

lol somehow people turned this thread into bashing el pacman and saying his only credible win would be bradley. dear god.

i need to show you guys one day a dude on youtube, who called me a racist for being a pacquiao fan but proceeded to call me a dumb **** among other things (im not even asian) then had a long novel written out discrediting every single pacquiao win since the late 90's. im not even making this up. his name is tony lee west aka nextselection671 on youtube, look him up.

[ADP02]

Floyd is out of the closet and showing us how he cherry picks his fights. He was thinking of fighting either Khan or Maidana .... and even told us so yet his fans continue to defend him .... just too funny!

[-Kev-]

Look at this way, Oscar,Cotto and Shane(for one round) all gave Floyd his toughest fights and they were well past their best. Imagine if he fights them in their prime or even 6-7 years earlier.

Okay, i'm gonna dumb myself down just to explain to you how silly your "6-7 years earlier" demand sounds. Let's play around with this 6-7 years timeline of when Floyd should have fought them.

De La Hoya - 6-7 years prior to 2007 = 2000-2001

De La Hoya's weight class: 147 - Welterweight
Mayweather's weight class: 130 - Super Featherweight

right, Floyd should have fought DLH 6-7 years earlier.

Mosley - 6-7 years prior to 2010 = 2003-2004

Mosley's weight class: 154 - Junior Middleweight
Mayweather's class: 135-140 - Lightweight and Junior Welterweight

Right 6-7 years earlier.

Cotto - 6-7 years prior to 2012 = 2006-2007

Both at 147.

2004-2006: Arum did not want to make Mayweather vs Cotto at 140 when he had them both together, similar to Gamboa vs Lopez. He rather have let the fight "marinate". Mayweather breaks away from Arum in an ugly lawsuit. Arum didn't want to do business with DLH, who offered Floyd a big pay day. Floyd left TR. Arum suddenly and publicly offers Floyd a fight against Margarito, after Floyd left. Margarito confronts Floyd for a fight, again, after he left TR and was no longer doing business with Arum.

2007: Mayweather had already been out of Top Rank and had lucrative 8 figure pay days with De La Hoya and Hatton. Haymon and Arum were not doing business together.

I just posted a highly sensible timeline, no bias behind them, no twists and turns, just facts, but I don't expect to get the same in return from you, or any anti-Floyd fan.

[Jsmooth9876]

Okay, i'm gonna dumb myself down just to explain to you how silly your "6-7 years earlier" demand sounds. Let's play around with this 6-7 years timeline of when Floyd should have fought them.

De La Hoya - 6-7 years prior to 2007 = 2000-2001

De La Hoya's weight class: 147 - Welterweight
Mayweather's weight class: 130 - Super Featherweight

right, Floyd should have fought DLH 6-7 years earlier.

Mosley - 6-7 years prior to 2010 = 2003-2004

Mosley's weight class: 154 - Junior Middleweight
Mayweather's class: 135-140 - Lightweight and Junior Welterweight

Right 6-7 years earlier.

Cotto - 6-7 years prior to 2012 = 2006-2007

Both at 147.

2004-2006: Arum did not want to make Mayweather vs Cotto at 140 when he had them both together, similar to Gamboa vs Lopez. He rather have let the fight "marinate". Mayweather breaks away from Arum in an ugly lawsuit. Arum didn't want to do business with DLH, who offered Floyd a big pay day. Floyd left TR. Arum suddenly and publicly offers Floyd a fight against Margarito, after Floyd left. Margarito confronts Floyd for a fight, again, after he left TR and was no longer doing business with Arum.

2007: Mayweather had already been out of Top Rank and had lucrative 8 figure pay days with De La Hoya and Hatton. Haymon and Arum were not doing business together.

I just posted a highly sensible timeline, no bias behind them, no twists and turns, just facts, but I don't expect to get the same in return from you, or any anti-Floyd fan.

No matter what I posted you would have came up with an excuse why he didn't fight them. I'll go with Margarito and Paul Williams now and you can give me those 2 excuses if you so please. Supposedly Floyd wanted to fight Tzyu,Oscar and Mosely all well before he ended up fighting the 2 of them at least. When was he gonna do that by your logic? Delahoya was fighting at 160 prior to Floyd. Mosely was going between 154-147 for Hoya/winky/Forrest etc...
Floyd's a cherry picker and he retired when he had so many good fights 147.

[I Love Jesus!]

E for effort .........

In the so-called duck category, blame Arum for Pacman, Cotto and Margarito.

How can you duck fighter's that are contracted to a promoter you will not work with and also sued. History contradicts the duck theory?

Paul Williams, was a Haymon managed fighter and during Pauls' career, you would be hard-pressed to find two Haymon fighters fight.


Got anymore?

Because the reason he "won't work with Arum" Is to duck fights.

[ADP02]

Okay, i'm gonna dumb myself down just to explain to you how silly your "6-7 years earlier" demand sounds. Let's play around with this 6-7 years timeline of when Floyd should have fought them.

De La Hoya - 6-7 years prior to 2007 = 2000-2001

De La Hoya's weight class: 147 - Welterweight
Mayweather's weight class: 130 - Super Featherweight

right, Floyd should have fought DLH 6-7 years earlier.

Mosley - 6-7 years prior to 2010 = 2003-2004

Mosley's weight class: 154 - Junior Middleweight
Mayweather's class: 135-140 - Lightweight and Junior Welterweight

Right 6-7 years earlier.

Cotto - 6-7 years prior to 2012 = 2006-2007

Both at 147.

2004-2006: Arum did not want to make Mayweather vs Cotto at 140 when he had them both together, similar to Gamboa vs Lopez. He rather have let the fight "marinate". Mayweather breaks away from Arum in an ugly lawsuit. Arum didn't want to do business with DLH, who offered Floyd a big pay day. Floyd left TR. Arum suddenly and publicly offers Floyd a fight against Margarito, after Floyd left. Margarito confronts Floyd for a fight, again, after he left TR and was no longer doing business with Arum.

2007: Mayweather had already been out of Top Rank and had lucrative 8 figure pay days with De La Hoya and Hatton. Haymon and Arum were not doing business together.

I just posted a highly sensible timeline, no bias behind them, no twists and turns, just facts, but I don't expect to get the same in return from you, or any anti-Floyd fan.

OK, I'm going to think like a Floyd fan defending his resume:

So Floyd could get a Marquez that was fighting 130 the years before but you are laughing at Floyd taking on Oscar and Mosley YET in other threads Floyd fans will say "but Floyd called out Oscar and Mosley back then so Floyd was seriously wanting those fights"

2006 Arum wanted to make the Floyd vs Margarito fight but Floyd didn't. Floyd stalled until he got Baldomir fight. Arum had Margarito waiting for Floyd during those months. So don't make it sound like Arum didn't want it. Arum was hoping that Floyd would come back. You know, just like Cotto did ... So don't go blaming Arum. Blame Floyd!

2007 Floyd should have tried to fight Cotto just like Floyd and his fans said that Floyd really wanted to fight another Arum fighter called Manny

[Jsmooth9876]

OK, I'm going to think like a Floyd fan defending his resume:

So Floyd could get a Marquez that was fighting 130 the years before but you are laughing at Floyd taking on Oscar and Mosley YET in other threads Floyd fans will say "but Floyd called out Oscar and Mosley back then so Floyd was seriously wanting those fights"

2006 Arum wanted to make the Floyd vs Margarito fight but Floyd didn't. Floyd stalled until he got Baldomir fight. Arum had Margarito waiting for Floyd during those months. So don't make it sound like Arum didn't want it. Arum was hoping that Floyd would come back. You know, just like Cotto did ... So don't go blaming Arum. Blame Floyd!

2007 Floyd should have tried to fight Cotto just like Floyd and his fans said that Floyd really wanted to fight another Arum fighter called Manny

It's everyone's fault but Floyd's in their eyes. Everyone was ducking him, and he wouldn't work with Arum yet everyone else was fighting one another then. Look at the welterweight fights that happened over that time. Margarito-Williams. Cotto-Shane,Pacman vs everyone, they all fought each other while he sat back then comes out and fights Marquez, a guy who hadn't fought above 135 but it was impossible for Floyd to fight guy a weight class above lol. Be realistic, Floyd picks and chooses his fights carefully and all his great names were way past it. Canelo may be that exception but he didn't even fight the kid at 154 where he had already fought and claimed he fights guys were they're comfortable. Canelo obviously wasn't comfortable at 152, he can't even get to 154 anymore and should be at 160 without a doubt.

[Dirk Diggler UK]

E for effort .........

In the so-called duck category, blame Arum for Pacman, Cotto and Margarito.

How can you duck fighter's that are contracted to a promoter you will not work with and also sued. History contradicts the duck theory?

Paul Williams, was a Haymon managed fighter and during Pauls' career, you would be hard-pressed to find two Haymon fighters fight.


Got anymore?

It's actually laughable that people consider these to be legitimate excuses.