Why do posters continue to discredit Floyd's resume because he ducked fighters???

[bigsmoothh]

Because hes too calculated and methodical with his picking of opponents. He is fighting a guy who lost to Pacs sparring partner, whilst Pac fights Bradley, Floyds future superfight.

He lets Miguel Cotto fight Sergio when all this time people wondered when he was going to. Never takes risks. Drains Canelo, yet SSM didn't even feel the need to do that at his advanced age.

Too much about the zero and not trying to show how good he can be.

this about sums it right.........

[smoothsmg]

Because hes too calculated and methodical with his picking of opponents. He is fighting a guy who lost to Pacs sparring partner, whilst Pac fights Bradley, Floyds future superfight.

He lets Miguel Cotto fight Sergio when all this time people wondered when he was going to. Never takes risks. Drains Canelo, yet SSM didn't even feel the need to do that at his advanced age.

Too much about the zero and not trying to show how good he can be.

Calculated and methodical? So fighting guys coming off career best wins, fighting guys coming off fight of the year candidates, fighting number 1 or 2 in the division, fighting guys undefeated for almost a decade, and not fighting Top rank guys is calculated and methodical? You guys are sad.

[MurkaMan]

Because hes too calculated and methodical with his picking of opponents. He is fighting a guy who lost to Pacs sparring partner, whilst Pac fights Bradley, Floyds future superfight.

He lets Miguel Cotto fight Sergio when all this time people wondered when he was going to. Never takes risks. Drains Canelo, yet SSM didn't even feel the need to do that at his advanced age.

Too much about the zero and not trying to show how good he can be.

These are some phenomenal exaggerations. He has blatantly fought the absolute best at goldenboy at the time he fought them, and people lie and say he fought them because they were too young or old. Cotto was the only one who was damaged and over the hill. The rest were big, strong, variety of styles. He changes his style completely to dominate them all without being grazed. Its not like he barely beats an older foe. He makes him look the same way he makes the young ones look.

You talk about Pac fighting Bradley when its his ONLY credible win in the last several fights. And its not like Bradley is big dangerous puncher. Its a little guy with skills that they fought because they thought they would KO him in 3 or 4 rounds. Its EASY to discredit Pac's whole ww run just about. When your talking about guys being too green, even tho their the best at that moment, your reaching, and not being fair.

You say he doesnt take risk, he actually stood in the pocket with Canelo and was 15lbs lighter. He pushed him back and had no respect for his power. Canelo just crushed Anguelo, and Floyd beat the snot out of that big boy.

I dissagree with the poster about Floyd ducking Cotto and Marg and all these guys. Floyd structured his career to get two money fights with Gatti and Oscar. He went directly to those two fights, and everyone accused him of ducking ten or twenty fighters who where in between. And none of them were even real threats. He blatantly ducked Pac, but no one else. He actually doesnt looked so concerned about the zero at all, when things are looked at from a wider point of view. He doesnt have to worry about it, because its impossible to beat him. He is the most skilled fighter I have ever witnessed, and when people talk about his opponents, its a blatant attempt to make excuses for why he is the most sharp fighter in the history of professional pugilism. No one can beat this guy.

[bklynboy]

Ducks

Yes, he ducked a prime Cotto "because he lives in Puerto Rico."
He ducked a prime Margarito (who could have been cheating) "because we not fighting to see who the best is."
Possible duck of Paul Williams.
And the infamous duck of a prime and just past-his-prime Manny Pacquaio who would have been the only ATG on his resume but ATGs are few and far between in boxing.

Resume

But he still has one of the best resumes of this era and of any fighter in history past the age of 30.

Here are his wins over (future) Hall of Fame fighters:

In their prime: Diego corrales, ricky hatton, jose luis castillo,judah (borderline HOF), marquez.

Past their prime: genaro hernandez, de la hoya, cotto, gatti

You'd be hard-pressed to find many fighters that have that many wins over Hall of Fame fighters.

It's because too many of his fans say he is the best EVER. I think Mayweather is a great fighter. I think he is TOP 10 in the last 30-40 years or so. But TOP 10 of all-time. No.

If he had fought 3-4x per year since 2006 (another 10-15 fights) taking on everyone in the weight class he was in then he would be rated much higher.

[MurkaMan]

It's because too many of his fans say he is the best EVER. I think Mayweather is a great fighter. I think he is TOP 10 in the last 30-40 years or so. But TOP 10 of all-time. No.

If he had fought 3-4x per year since 2006 (another 10-15 fights) taking on everyone in the weight class he was in then he would be rated much higher.

I dont care about none of that resume talk, he didnt dominate enough top tier fighters, in shockingly onesided fashion, enough for him to be the most skilled fighter in the history of the sport? LOL

Im sorry but Floyd is the best I have ever seen. People talk about resumes to make excuses for why this man is so special. And they use it to act like that fact that he's this good isnt a big deal. Its a VERY big deal to see a 37 yr old little grandpa-man stand in the pocket and walk down a 165lb giant. He didnt even have any respect for his power at all.

He just makes it look easy. Its downright otherworldy and a fighter like this will NEVER happen again. Except for NOW in YOUR lifetime. Your greatgrand kids will have to see it on youtube.

[bklynboy]

I dont care about none of that resume talk, he didnt dominate enough top tier fighters, in shockingly onesided fashion, enough for him to be the most skilled fighter in the history of the sport? LOL

Im sorry but Floyd is the best I have ever seen. People talk about resumes to make excuses for why this man is so special. And they use it to act like that fact that he's this good isnt a big deal. Its a VERY big deal to see a 37 yr old little grandpa-man stand in the pocket and walk down a 165lb giant. He didnt even have any respect for his power at all.

He just makes it look easy. Its downright otherworldy and a fighter like this will NEVER happen again. Except for NOW in YOUR lifetime. Your greatgrand kids will have to see it on youtube.

Resumes do count. It's one of the reasons why the Klitshchkos don't get the respect their fans think they should get. Re fighting more people - styles make fights and upsets happen.

If the Green Bay Packers in Super Bowl III decided not to take on the Jets as a result of contract negotiations we all *know* that Green Bay would have won. But that's not what happened.

The fact that Mayweather didn't clean out his division counts against him in all-time rankings.

[daggum]

Calculated and methodical? So fighting guys coming off career best wins, fighting guys coming off fight of the year candidates, fighting number 1 or 2 in the division, fighting guys undefeated for almost a decade, and not fighting Top rank guys is calculated and methodical? You guys are sad.

a bum coming off his career best win is still a bum

[noStylez]

a bum coming off his career best win is still a bum

LOL...made me chuckle

[Jsmooth9876]

His resume blows since 2002 except he took on Canelo who is much bigger and actually a good fighter.
Look at this way, Oscar,Cotto and Shane(for one round) all gave Floyd his toughest fights and they were well past their best. Imagine if he fights them in their prime or even 6-7 years earlier.
Manny he never wanted to fight after he watched him demolish Oscar and Hatton and Cotto

Corrales was a great win for him and Hatton was a good win and Canelo.
Castillo beat him the first fight..
He's a great fighter but in no way is he unbeatable or even close to the greatest ever. The greatest business man in boxing, I'll give ya that one.

[Bushbaby]

Ducks

Yes, he ducked a prime Cotto "because he lives in Puerto Rico."
He ducked a prime Margarito (who could have been cheating) "because we not fighting to see who the best is."
Possible duck of Paul Williams.
And the infamous duck of a prime and just past-his-prime Manny Pacquaio who would have been the only ATG on his resume but ATGs are few and far between in boxing.

Resume

But he still has one of the best resumes of this era and of any fighter in history past the age of 30.

Here are his wins over (future) Hall of Fame fighters:

In their prime: Diego corrales, ricky hatton, jose luis castillo,judah (borderline HOF), marquez.

Past their prime: genaro hernandez, de la hoya, cotto, gatti

You'd be hard-pressed to find many fighters that have that many wins over Hall of Fame fighters.

The funny thing about this post is that Pacman would have been the easiest of them all for Floyd to molly and look fabulous doing it.