I think we can all agree that Pacquiao beats Canelo.

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  • BUNGALOWS
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    #31
    Originally posted by MGMGRAND
    I do agree with that.

    I think Floyd could do 160, nothing higher.
    Pac should be doing 154 at least.
    Cool, I can agree with that.

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    • MGMGRAND
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      #32
      Originally posted by BUNGALOWS
      OK, so basically, because Manny is so small, and because of his style he wouldn't be as successful at JMW, right?
      No, not because he is small, but because Canelo is a BIG ASS 154 fighter, dude should already be at 160 or 168.

      Pacquiao could fight Lara and a few other 154 fighters and be just fine.

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      • MisterHardtop
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        #33
        I'm surprised, no, shocked that some of you believe Manny Pacquiao, quite possibly the greatest fighter of his generation, probably the best offensive boxer since a young Mike Tyson and prime Chavez Sr is easy to hit. Pacquiao's head movement and reflexes ranks with the best of them and his chin is the best, P4P, outside of Ali, Marciano, Chavez Sr, Whitaker, Mayweather, Froch and so on. Yes he was stopped by Marquez but we all know of the controversy that surrounded that decision, plus it took 40+ rounds for Marquez to even severely wobble the great champion, let alone stop him.

        Pacquiao, even at this stage in his career (unless he is shot, which we'll find out post-Bradley, but I doubt it) would make easy work of Canelo. It would be like the Rios fight, only more competitive but that basically means I believe Canelo may win a round or two.

        I believe Canelo is immensely talented, has a great chin, his heart is unquestionable and he has taken steps to improve his competition but he can't compete with Pacquiao. Not yet anyway. That is no slight to the young man, who I believe can go on to rule the division for years to come, if he stays motivated and in shape and does not move up to 160.

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        • -Kev-
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          #34
          Currently? No, I can't agree with that. Not now.

          Rios is no better than Angulo.

          Canelo's defense, size, and accuracy would be too much for Pacquiao unless he drains him down to 150lbs.

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          • Bushidō
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            #35
            Originally posted by BUNGALOWS
            The guy beat up another guy that has no head movement, moves at a snail's pace, and throws punches slower than a 60 year old grandpa.

            On top of that, he freezes up any time you touch the guy, and he can't deal with movement.

            NSB, some of you guys need to take your medication.
            Not sure if serious

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            • Capaedia
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              #36
              Originally posted by BUNGALOWS
              The guy beat up another guy that has no head movement, moves at a snail's pace, and throws punches slower than a 60 year old grandpa.
              How did Angulo give the best mover in the division so many problems in his last fight if he is as bad as you say he is?

              Canelo bossed him by getting off first, and moving laterally. When Angulo did get close, he couldnt land **** because of Canelos defense and countering.

              On top of that, he freezes up any time you touch the guy, and he can't deal with movement.
              He was trying to counter Mayweathers counters. He successfully countered Mosleys. He wobbled Trout in the same fashion several times

              His defense is very good too. When he did get hit, he rolled with it and kept himself in a position to avoid the next one.

              He dealt with Trouts movement just fine. Had him right where he needed him. Mayweathers movement is ATG **** and there is no shame in being troubled by it. Even then, his footwork was alright.

              Canelo is a fine young technician. He has his faults (not the ones you described) but he is learning rapidly. He needs a better team, but he looked very good last night.


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              • BUNGALOWS
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                #37
                Originally posted by MGMGRAND
                No, not because he is small, but because Canelo is a BIG ASS 154 fighter, dude should already be at 160 or 168.

                Pacquiao could fight Lara and a few other 154 fighters and be just fine.
                Yeah, if he came in at 155 for the weigh ins, and 168 on fight night, he'd be a bit too big. I agree.

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                • BUNGALOWS
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                  #38
                  Originally posted by -Kev-
                  Currently? No, I can't agree with that. Not now.

                  Rios is no better than Angulo.

                  Canelo's defense, size, and accuracy would be too much for Pacquiao unless he drains him down to 150lbs.
                  Or 152......

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                  • Szef
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                    #39
                    And I thought PAC BOY is ******ed..

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                    • Alpha & Omega
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                      #40
                      HAHAHAH is this a trolling thread? Are any of you serious? I have to assume this is a joke. Canelo would beat the living hell out of Pac and stop him, give me a gd break man.

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