I think we can all agree that Pacquiao beats Canelo.

[DLT]

Still, Pac would beat Canelo, and pretty easily if any semblance of the Cotto Pac is alive.

Pac isnt that guy anymore but even if he wore, he still probably would be biting off more then he can chew. P4P was clearly a much better fighter, right now he's probably P4P still better, but he wont beat him striaght up

[MGMGRAND]

His speed, combinations and footwork aren't too much for Manny. His size might be, but that's about it.

Lets play a game.

Ok, lets replace Canelo with the Margarito that Manny fought.

Imagine Canelos quick, fast and sharp combinations coming towards Manny. What would Manny do in your opinion

1. Take the punches?
2. Slip the punches?
3. Block the punches from a much bigger and stronger man?

[BUNGALOWS]

Lets play a game.

Ok, lets replace Canelo with the Margarito that Manny fought.

Imagine Canelos quick, fast and sharp combinations coming towards Manny. What would Manny do in your opinion

1. Take the punches?
2. Slip the punches?
3. Block the punches from a much bigger and stronger man?

I'll play that game, and give you a counter argument. Canelo freezes up any time he gets hit, and he's not the type of guy to come into crossfires while you're throwing combos at him.

He's a cerebral fighter that waits til he's 100% sure he can get off on you.

Margarito is the type to apply pressure like that's the only thing he knows how to do.

[BUNGALOWS]

Pacquiao loses to Canelo just like Mayweather loses to Glovokin.

No one is unbeatable.

So you're saying due to styles and size, Pac's limit is JMW, and Floyd's is MW?

[_original_]

This isn't even a fair fight, Canelo would obliterate Pacquiao. Not because he's the greater fighter of the two or some unstoppable force, but because the size discrepancy is too much. You never know though, Pacquiao has surprised me plenty of times.

[BUNGALOWS]

Pac isnt that guy anymore but even if he wore, he still probably would be biting off more then he can chew. P4P was clearly a much better fighter, right now he's probably P4P still better, but he wont beat him striaght up

So, because of size and styles, Pac wouldn't be as successful at JMW?

[MGMGRAND]

I'll play that game, and give you a counter argument. Canelo freezes up any time he gets hit, and he's not the type of guy to come into crossfires while you're throwing combos at him.

He's a cerebral fighter that waits til he's 100% sure he can get off on you.

Margarito is the type to apply pressure like that's the only thing he knows how to do.

Ok, that I do agree with, when Pacquiao is throwing and getting off Canelo will go into his shell, ok now still answer mines as well?

My thing is, we all know Pacquiao takes breaks from time to time still.

I have no doubt in my mind if Canelo would have hit Floyd or anyone other than Angulo the way he was landing last night, they would be sleep.
Atlest anyone at 154 and under

[Carpe Diem]

55-45 fight in favor of Manny or 50-50 fight. Canelo isn't as slow as Rios when it comes to hand speed, and he's also a decent counter puncher who throws hard counter shots with mean intentions. Manny can outpoint on the outside, but on the inside, it would be a total different ball game. OP, Manny's defense is underrated, but he's still very easy to hit.

[MGMGRAND]

So you're saying due to styles and size, Pac's limit is JMW, and Floyd's is MW?

I do agree with that.

I think Floyd could do 160, nothing higher.
Pac should be doing 154 at least.

[BUNGALOWS]

Ok, that I do agree with, when Pacquiao is throwing and getting off Canelo will go into his shell, ok now still answer mines as well?

My thing is, we all know Pacquiao takes breaks from time to time still.

I have no doubt in my mind if Canelo would have hit Floyd or anyone other than Angulo the way he was landing last night, they would be sleep.
Atlest anyone at 154 and under

OK, so basically, because Manny is so small, and because of his style he wouldn't be as successful at JMW, right?