Joe Frazier - too OVERRATED!?

[Hitman Hodgson]

Stylistically he doesn't match up well against other ATG like Foreman, or Lewis but overall I'd never bet against him against many other ATG HWs. Overrated? Not in this world.

[sugarsmosley]

Muhammad who?

- OP

[Xpert]

His win over Ali is quite simply one of the greatest wins anybody in the history of the sport has... take that out and his resume still pisses over most other fighters ... Ellis, Bonavena, Quarry, Foster etc.

He got blown out by foreman ... marciano, tyson or anybody with that style gets blown out by foreman.

Frazier is a legit ATG and it's not up for dispute.

To be honest, when I look at the resume of those you mentioned, Ellis, Quarry, etc., they just don't seem to be special. I mean, remove Ali from Frazier's resume and all of a sudden, modern boxers like Froch got an obviously better resume.

Sure the Frazier victims are not just being hyped up today to make it seem like better wins for Frazier?

[George Orwell]

I would say that win-loss record is overrated.

[Weltschmerz]

Very overrated. Frazier was nothing special. Prime Samuel Peter would beat him.

[bklynboy]

Very overrated. Frazier was nothing special. Prime Samuel Peter would beat him.

Disagree. The only fighters in the last 25 years that I would favor - or call a toss-up - with Frazier are (in chronological order) Tyson, Bowe, Lewis, VK and WK. All big guys.

Holyfield would put up a great fight but would be smoked. (no pun intended) Haye would be beat down or run or get hurt and postpone the fight.

Tua, Peters, Bruno, Ruddock, Morrison, McCall, Moorer, Povetkin, Rahman, would all fall to Frazier. The ONLY one in the above list that I would give a shot would be a prime Tua.

[bojangles1987]

Didn't this thread happen a couple weeks ago already and backfired on the TS?

Yes.

If TS is genuinely interested, look them up. If you're an alt of one of the people who looked ****** in that thread, this thread isn't going to make you look any better.

[Xpert]

Yes.

If TS is genuinely interested, look them up. If you're an alt of one of the people who looked ****** in that thread, this thread isn't going to make you look any better.

That thread doesn't answer my questions, dumbass, how are the guys Frazier beat great wins except Ali?

[Holywarrior]

Relative to which heavyweight ATG? You must have a standard then.

[Rip Chudd]

Didn't this thread happen a couple weeks ago already and backfired on the TS?

Yeah I'm guessing this is one of his alts