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  • #81
    I'd like to see him fight Cotto, it seems logical, he's fought his brother, now time for the real deal. . . . If Cotto beats Martinez that is

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    • #82
      Originally posted by jrrod02 View Post
      I repeat, if the tables were turned and Lara had an opportunity to fight the Cotto/Martinez winner, or a chance to fight Molina or Vanes (two fighters who are deserving of a rematch with Lara), whom do you think Lara would choose?
      And would Lara's 10 fans criticize him for taking the money fight instead of the more deserving fight?
      Again jrrod, respectfully aI disagree of the argument that Canelo is only ducking because he is pursuing a huge purse. This is true with Mayweather, but for sure a Canelo-Lara fight will get a lot of profits after this tale and comparable to the one will be rise tomorrow. For sure Lara is not the best fighter in the world, but his style is suitable to win Canelo. For me all the evidence point to that reason because there onece your argument of the purse is not logical to me the only logical explanation is the ducking

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      • #83
        Originally posted by racostaa View Post
        Lara and some others talented boxers born in a communist country where HBO is not accessible to the Cubans and the Miami Cubans fans are not enough by themselves to move huge profits. This lack of fan base is his main sin as some others fighters. But for now just state that Lara is being ducked by Canelo and by far he is a much better boxer, likem Rigo is much better than everyone else in 122 and 126 but he is without fan base. Canelo will be hunted no by me, by the journalist on every press conference as he has been since he decided to fight Angulo and no one can claim to be the best while Rigo is in his weight.
        Stop with your nonsense. There are plenty of Cuban Americans that could support Lara and other fighters of Cuban descent. They just choose not too.
        If Adamek could find plenty of fans of polish descent to support him so van Lara.

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        • #84
          Originally posted by racostaa View Post
          Again jrrod, respectfully aI disagree of the argument that Canelo is only ducking because he is pursuing a huge purse. This is true with Mayweather, but for sure a Canelo-Lara fight will get a lot of profits after this tale and comparable to the one will be rise tomorrow. For sure Lara is not the best fighter in the world, but his style is suitable to win Canelo. For me all the evidence point to that reason because there onece your argument of the purse is not logical to me the only logical explanation is the ducking
          What evidence? Lara looked horrible against Molina and Vanrs. He went life and death with Angulo. It wasn't like he dominated him. And yes he did beat Trout but so did canelo. And canelo did it while Trout was undefeated.

          So what evidence? The fact you dislike Canelo?

          I've already explained why he prefers to fight Angulo. Despite the monetary value of the fight Canelo is coming off an embarrassing loss. Nothing wrong with him getting a winnable fight for his next bout. And nothing new since plenty of fighters have done this. But again because of your utter dislike for Canelo you criticize.
          Last edited by JJRod; 03-07-2014, 01:56 PM.

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          • #85
            Originally posted by jrrod02 View Post
            What evidence? Lara looked horrible against Molina and Vanrs. He went life and death with Angulo. It wasn't like he dominated him. And yes he did beat Trout but so did canelo. And canelo did it while Trout was undefeated.

            So what evidence? The fact you dislike Canelo?
            The fact I dislike protection and manipulation. Let the good fights happen and not protect some fighters. If Canelo is better than Lara or viceverse only there is one way to know it, fighting each other. I'm Cuban and in an article about a Cuban prospect Dorticos I was the opinion not to protect my Cuban fello fighter. If he claim to be the best so he has to prove it. If not there is always others jobs to do in United States like everybody else. If Canelo or Lara is the best just prove it

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            • #86
              Lineal MW champion of the world or Lara?

              Tough decision

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              • #87
                Originally posted by jrrod02 View Post
                Stop with your nonsense. There are plenty of Cuban Americans that could support Lara and other fighters of Cuban descent. They just choose not too.
                If Adamek could find plenty of fans of polish descent to support him so van Lara.
                Last December I went to Poland. In Poland approximately an average wage is like $600 euros. A fan person can make a sacrifice and pay fopr a PPV. In Cuba and average wage is $20 USD and HBO is forbidden by law. There is no way a Cuban fan can pay for this fight. In all USA, not only Miami, Cubans are not more than 2 MM. Mexican can be like 50 MM or something in USA plus near 100MM in Mexico where so many can pay for the fight or see it in boxing Azteca. Even the second reachest man in the world is Mexican. Due to this fan base GB is having so many success with Mexican boxers.
                There's no comparison. Our only point is that Cubans have a huge tradition in boxing and one of the best school of boxers. So they must open their path fighting, like Lara is defying Canelo and Gamboa Mickey and Rigo defying Arum. That's the truth man

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                • #88
                  Originally posted by racostaa View Post
                  Last December I went to Poland. In Poland approximately an average wage is like $600 euros. A fan person can make a sacrifice and pay fopr a PPV. In Cuba and average wage is $20 USD and HBO is forbidden by law. There is no way a Cuban fan can pay for this fight. In all USA, not only Miami, Cubans are not more than 2 MM. Mexican can be like 50 MM or something in USA plus near 100MM in Mexico where so many can pay for the fight or see it in boxing Azteca. Even the second reachest man in the world is Mexican. Due to this fan base GB is having so many success with Mexican boxers.
                  There's no comparison. Our only point is that Cubans have a huge tradition in boxing and one of the best school of boxers. So they must open their path fighting, like Lara is defying Canelo and Gamboa Mickey and Rigo defying Arum. That's the truth man
                  A lot of truth here ..
                  Good post

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                  • #89
                    Originally posted by racostaa View Post
                    Last December I went to Poland. In Poland approximately an average wage is like $600 euros. A fan person can make a sacrifice and pay fopr a PPV. In Cuba and average wage is $20 USD and HBO is forbidden by law. There is no way a Cuban fan can pay for this fight. In all USA, not only Miami, Cubans are not more than 2 MM. Mexican can be like 50 MM or something in USA plus near 100MM in Mexico where so many can pay for the fight or see it in boxing Azteca. Even the second reachest man in the world is Mexican. Due to this fan base GB is having so many success with Mexican boxers.
                    There's no comparison. Our only point is that Cubans have a huge tradition in boxing and one of the best school of boxers. So they must open their path fighting, like Lara is defying Canelo and Gamboa Mickey and Rigo defying Arum. That's the truth man
                    No its not the truth. Rigo could have put agbeko away in impressive fashion and found his way back on HBO in no time. He chose to take no chances and that's why hes at where hes at. How can you blame it on Bob? And as for Gamboa, that woman beater PED user also put himself there. He ruined his body with steroids and now he goes life and death with Filipino fisherman, his mikey cry for a fight is just a look for a payday. Just like Lara is looking for a payday. Why doesn't he beat Molina and Vanes convincingly or try to rematch Angulo? he never wants to hear those 3 names again. If he was so great he would be a legit champ and had legit title shots like both Vanes and Molina did. Not a gifted belt like he won vs Angulo. And you guys don't support your fans so don't blame Mexican fan base for your poor fan base.

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                    • #90
                      Please correct me if I am wrong but I believe that Sergio still has 2 fights left on the 3 fight deal he signed with HBO starting after the Chavez Jr. fight. That would make it almost impossible to make a Canelo fight if he beats Cotto.
                      Cotto had the chance to fight Canelo and turned down $10 million to do so because he thought Martinez would be an easier fight coming off an injury and long layoff.
                      Canelo/Cotto in NY would be a big time PPV.
                      After Canelo teaches El Perro to roll over in the ring tomorrow we will see how Lara stacks up seeing as how Angulo dropped Lara twice and could have ended the fight if not for being thumbed.

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