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  • #71
    Originally posted by racostaa View Post
    Part II. My point is to make the real fights and avoid manipulation. I know every people will see Canelo- Angulo's fight, even thought is a manipulation and everybody know it. I will not see it. I want the real ones, with the best opponents, the one's who has deserved it. GB will get everybodys money, except mine. The ring should say always the last word between fighters, not the manipulators in power. Sounds idealistic, I know, but is the truth. Even Canelo winning he is a hyped boxer and a coward with a team picking their more suitable fighters for his style or when those fighter become old or had a lost. That's the truth man. Even a blind can see it.
    Again you keep mentioning Canelo as ducking Lara, when there is no evidence of that.
    Canelo is coming off a loss himself, no problem with trying to get a fight to get him back on the winning column. Cotto, DLH, Trinidad have all done this after they experienced their first loss. But if Canelo does it you're up in arms about it.

    In boxing opportunities are limited. The doors on possibly making huge fights can close any minute, which is why Canelo would be looking at making the Cotto/Martinez fight sooner than later. It doesn't mean that he's ducking Lara or he has no interest in fighting him in the future.

    I repeat, if the tables were turned and Lara had an opportunity to fight the Cotto/Martinez winner, or a chance to fight Molina or Vanes (two fighters who are deserving of a rematch with Lara), whom do you think Lara would choose?
    And would Lara's 10 fans criticize him for taking the money fight instead of the more deserving fight?
    Last edited by JJRod; 03-07-2014, 01:10 PM.

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    • #72
      Originally posted by jrrod02 View Post
      Again you keep mentioning Canelo as ducking Lara, when there is no evidence of that.
      Canelo is coming off a loss himself, no problem with trying to get a fight to get him back on the winning column. Cotto, DLH, Trinidad have all done this after they experienced their first loss. But if Canelo does it you're up in arms about it.

      I repeat, if the tables were turned and Lara had an opportunity to fight the Cotto/Martinez winner, or a chance to fight Molina orVanes (two fighters who are deserving of a rematch with Lara), whom do you think Lara would choose?
      And would Lara's 10 fans criticism him for taking the money fight instead of the more deserving fight?
      We' re growing baby ...

      I agree with most all of ur post . One point to add thou , if all fights had an equal monetary value ,Lara would obviously not be Canelo's teams first choice out of the fighters u mentioned. Which is why some say Canelo's ducking . And money issues makes it a legitimate excuse for now.

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      • #73
        Originally posted by Black Barty View Post
        Yeah, Lara is the GOAT, and everyone else is a fraud and ducking him. Lara not getting all the big fights and all the money in the world is what's wrong with boxing. We all should be grateful to live on the same planet as him.
        Lara and some others talented boxers born in a communist country where HBO is not accessible to the Cubans and the Miami Cubans fans are not enough by themselves to move huge profits. This lack of fan base is his main sin as some others fighters. But for now just state that Lara is being ducked by Canelo and by far he is a much better boxer, likem Rigo is much better than everyone else in 122 and 126 but he is without fan base. Canelo will be hunted no by me, by the journalist on every press conference as he has been since he decided to fight Angulo and no one can claim to be the best while Rigo is in his weight.

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        • #74
          Originally posted by Respect Power View Post
          We' re growing baby ...

          I agree with most all of ur post . One point to add thou , if all fights had an equal monetary value ,Lara would obviously not be Canelo's teams first choice out of the fighters u mentioned. Which is why some say Canelo's ducking . And money issues makes it a legitimate excuse for now.

          If all fights had equal monetary value meaning popularity had nothing to do with it, Canelo would probably not be Lara's first choice either.

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          • #75
            Originally posted by jrrod02 View Post
            Again you keep mentioning Canelo as ducking Lara, when there is no evidence of that.
            Part I. Of course there is plenty of evidence of that. The main evidence is he is facing the one who just lost with Lara and not the winner, something completely without explanation except he is ducking.
            Your are talking about evidence and there is two types of evidence, direct and circumstantial. The circumstantial is as valid as the direct and you can make a case with this kind of evidence. In this case all the circumstances point that Canelo is ducking, even there is no a direct confesion about it. He will get good purse with Lara, he will get prestige because journalist are constantly diminishing his results. Why he didn't fight?. For me the more reasonable answer is because he knows Lara is better.

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            • #76
              Originally posted by jrrod02 View Post
              Again you keep mentioning Canelo as ducking Lara, when there is no evidence of that.
              Part II. When he decide to fight against Cotto/Martinez winner he will face the same critics about Lara and we will be discussing the same about ducking. HE is begging to God someone more suitable to Lara win him and clean his path. Remember, for sure there are better boxers than Lara, but his style is the one perfect to win him and that's why he is hiding.

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              • #77
                Originally posted by racostaa View Post
                Part I. Sorry, its not the same fighting someone who has loose for Lara or Canelo. Canelo has all the promoters power, all the opportunities. Lara has what he can find left over or the opportunities he can build like this one defying Canelo on every corner. When Lara fought Trout after Trout's lost was his best opponent beetwen his available opportunities but now when Canelo is fighting Angulo he is not his best opponent in his opportunities. Canelo's opportunities are not the Lara's opportunities. The Mayweather fight is something completely diferent, because fighting Mayweather is the best purse in boxing. Even Mayweather will never consider Lara because Lara's style is the one able to win Mayweather and not Canelo's style. Why then Canelo had the opportunity with Mayweather?, because he is the chosen one, the protected, not the best and for Mayweather side Canelo's style is suitable for him to defeat as happened
                Originally posted by racostaa View Post
                Lara and some others talented boxers born in a communist country where HBO is not accessible to the Cubans and the Miami Cubans fans are not enough by themselves to move huge profits. This lack of fan base is his main sin as some others fighters. But for now just state that Lara is being ducked by Canelo and by far he is a much better boxer, likem Rigo is much better than everyone else in 122 and 126 but he is without fan base. Canelo will be hunted no by me, by the journalist on every press conference as he has been since he decided to fight Angulo and no one can claim to be the best while Rigo is in his weight.
                Just nailed it like it is.

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                • #78
                  Originally posted by jrrod02 View Post
                  If all fights had equal monetary value meaning popularity had nothing to do with it, Canelo would probably not be Lara's first choice either.
                  I'll give u that one . Canelo is young , strong , and fast .

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                  • #79
                    Originally posted by Black Barty View Post
                    Yeah, Lara is the GOAT, and everyone else is a fraud and ducking him. Lara not getting all the big fights and all the money in the world is what's wrong with boxing. We all should be grateful to live on the same planet as him.
                    LAra is Canelos GOAT, not everybodys goat. Boxing is about styles. There are styles that can beat Lara, but for Canelo Lara's style is perfect to defeat him and much better style than old Martinez or old Cotto. Canelo is hiding and he will be schooled like Donaire was. Bet on it

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                    • #80
                      Originally posted by racostaa View Post
                      LAra is Canelos GOAT, not everybodys goat. Boxing is about styles. There are styles that can beat Lara, but for Canelo Lara's style is perfect to defeat him and much better style than old Martinez or old Cotto. Canelo is hiding and he will be schooled like Donaire was. Bet on it
                      Canelo gets stopped by Martinez, wasn't he folding up from Mayweather punches? Imagine what happens when he gets hit by the Undisputed MiddleWeight Champ of the world.

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