Was Dela Hoya Robbed Against Trinidad?

[Deeznuts]

Neither fighter deserved to win that fight. A draw would have been Ok, but they both fought very carefully and scared to take a chance.

[SnoopySmurf]

Neither fighter deserved to win that fight. A draw would have been Ok, but they both fought very carefully and scared to take a chance.

Well, Oscar was smart not to go toe to toe with Felix. He had to be careful. Tito went in there to mix it up but got his timing put off by the tactical Oscar.

But I see what you're saying. There hasn't been welterweights that put it on the line since Hearns/Leonard and Duran/Leonard. Where tactics went out the window and it was power vs power.

We didn't see it last time with Judah and Mayweather, either.

[Parody]

How can people say "tito won a close fight" ? after 10 rounds I had it 7 to 3 for oscar and it was clear Tito needed only a knockout to win

[norbak1258]

Does anyone think Trinidad won that fight? you guys (trinidad fans) say it could have been a draw but do u believe he won?

No I dont think he won, but I dont think that dlh won it, that is why I said that i scored it as a draw.

[chidave]

Parody, even you are admitting you scored it 7-5 in rounds, that means if one round turns you have the fight a draw..that's why so many of us aren't surprised the fight turned out the way it did. If you give away 4+ rounds, you invite disaster. De La Hoya never looked better than he did the first half of that fight, but followed the poor advice from his corner to run that made him snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.

[norbak1258]

There is simply no way in hell you are seriuos. What judge in thier right mind gave tito 3 of the first 4 rounds?!?!

Oscar clearly won 7 rounds of that fight, and on my socrecard, he won 8. Yes, he ran like a ***** but that doesnt mean he didnt win the first 7 rounds. There is simply no way in hell you can justify Tito winning that fight. Thank GOd Hopkins KTFO'd him.

In the last round, dlh was KTFO when??? and btw I like dlh better than tito.

[norbak1258]

Well, Oscar was smart not to go toe to toe with Felix. He had to be careful. Tito went in there to mix it up but got his timing put off by the tactical Oscar.

But I see what you're saying. There hasn't been welterweights that put it on the line since Hearns/Leonard and Duran/Leonard. Where tactics went out the window and it was power vs power.

We didn't see it last time with Judah and Mayweather, either.

Well you can see what happens with most of the fighters that try that with trinidad, ask mayorga with that good chin of his. On the other hand look at winky that did not tito win a single round, why? Because he did not want to trade with tito (smart move).

[chidave]

De La Hoya would have been a fool to go toe to toe with Trinidad. There is a difference between "boxing" him and dominating like he did early, and "running" and giving away all those rounds at the end. Once again, I think DLH won, but he made the fight close enough to lose by his tactics at the end. I remember when it was over, there was question in my mind whether he gave it away or not before the decision was announced. If I am questioning the decision, I can't call it a robbery.

[DarkSpyder]

I've just watched the fight again. In retrospect of another viewing, there is little doubt that Oscar should've won the fight. He boxed excellently for the vast majority of the fight and fought the perfect vs. Tito gameplan; quick movement, a stiff jab, picking your spots accurately and effectively and using Trinidad's pressure and lack of decent head movement against him. I scored the fight 7 rounds to 5 (I thought Trinidad won rounds 2,4,10,11 and 12.) Fortunately for Oscar, Felix wasn't able to adapt to change the fight (a detrimental career trait, I believe he would have been able to, as he was a good boxer- it's just that he was either ill-advised, too stubborn or both.)

Oscar didn't just run away for the last three rounds, he was on the back foot for most of the fight. The difference is that in the earlier stages he was using the tentative, nervy exchanges common in much-hyped bouts (combined with the weaknesses of Trinidad as above) to his advantage, taking the opportunity to release fast, flashy if not damaging combinations, and he has to be given credit for taking the early initiative.

But IMO (and ultimately how it turned out) the judges weren't impressed with the way he deliberately avoided his opponent like the plague later on in the fight in the (supposedly) safe knowledge that the decision would be a shoe-in. But can you blame him? You could say he was thick if he didn't think he was several rounds ahead by round 11, and, knowing Felix would have to get at the very least a knockdown, he moved as much as possible. It may look like a ***** thing to do, and this is the tactical paradox of the fight- he shows ring intelligence, but also complete foolishness because this mindset lost him the fight!

This was his downfall, but, whichever way you cut it, in a scoring sense, Oscar deserved the decision. And I'm a big Trinidad fan.

[abdiel2k3]

lets set one thing strait
idk where this oscar ran the last 4 rds crap started but its BS
he ran the last 3
round 9 he still did the same boxing as most of the fight
moven and jabbin
then stoppin and firing combinations
this 4rd give away crap is what gives most people the idea that tito may have won it
he gave him 3 rds!!!!
tito on his own maybe won 3
MAYBE
thats if u give him rds based on the he did better this rd then the last
no matter how u look at it
oscar won this fight
even with given tito a 3 rd handicap

There is simply no way in hell you are seriuos. What judge in thier right mind gave tito 3 of the first 4 rounds?!?!

Oscar clearly won 7 rounds of that fight, and on my socrecard, he won 8. Yes, he ran like a ***** but that doesnt mean he didnt win the first 7 rounds. There is simply no way in hell you can justify Tito winning that fight. Thank GOd Hopkins KTFO'd him.

that basterd got both of them