Get Mayweather To England....

[Scottie2Hottie]

Simply wrong if you take the scenario that I laid out in my first post.

i guess it makes sense in that case. get an american, a brit, and someone from switzerland.

[EXIGE]

i dont care if the fight happens in the usa or in africa or in south america or in australia or in any part of europe. i think floyd wins everywhere. BUT floyd doesnt want to risk going to england and i cant blame him.
the hatton zoo fight was the single worst referring job i have ever seen in my life.
dont tell me i am hoping for, either. i THINK hatton will get stopped on cuts because he has a habit for getting severly cut and swelled. its called a prediction.

Hatton has a habit of getting cut and then going on to win the fight you mean?

So Mayweather cuts him, and Hatton gets stopped early, because its America, when if you look at his past performances, the cuts havent hindered his fighting and he has always gone on to win (hence undefeated record)...

Mayweather needs to step outside of his backyard for me to respect him, like I do KT who had the balls to come to England and pick the biggest money up...

[EXIGE]

i guess it makes sense in that case. get an american, a brit, and someone from switzerland.

Exactly!!!!

[oldgringo]

Hatton fights Mayweather here...I don't see why this is debated so much.

The fight will happen, it'll be a good fight either way. America is where the big time fights happen, I know that is close mided or whathaveyou but it's the way it is often times.

Mayweather has faced Castillo and Corrales when they were both absolute killers...theres nothing more scary about Hatton right now than there was with those guys several years ago. He's fought the best in his career, even though he's seemingly fighting powder puffs right now. Fights gonna happen though, not in MEN however.

[Easy-E]

Hatton has a habit of getting cut and then going on to win the fight you mean?

So Mayweather cuts him, and Hatton gets stopped early, because its America, when if you look at his past performances, the cuts havent hindered his fighting and he has always gone on to win (hence undefeated record)...

Mayweather needs to step outside of his backyard for me to respect him, like I do KT who had the balls to come to England and pick the biggest money up...

hatton is not good on cuts. i predicted floyd to stop hatton on cuts. i think hes precision and speed will allow him to attack the cut and eventually stop the fight.
LIKE I SAID, i dont care if the fight takes place in the us
IN fact, hold it in a neutral location with a neutral ref and neutral judges.
ya, kt had the balls to come to england and look what happend. he lost in one of the dirtiest fights ever

[medium-deek]

I personally not bothered as to where this fight takes place simply because I cannot see it going the distance. One man will win through stoppage/KO before the 12th round. Its too close to call. Its a 50/50 bout.

[Easy-E]

i guess it makes sense in that case. get an american, a brit, and someone from switzerland.

the problem is, judges are not the only problem. the ref and ring doctor also factor in

[EXIGE]

Hatton fights Mayweather here...I don't see why this is debated so much.

The fight will happen, it'll be a good fight either way. America is where the big time fights happen, I know that is close mided or whathaveyou but it's the way it is often times.

Mayweather has faced Castillo and Corrales when they were both absolute killers...theres nothing more scary about Hatton right now than there was with those guys several years ago. He's fought the best in his career, even though he's seemingly fighting powder puffs right now. Fights gonna happen though, not in MEN however.

Is there any real reason why you object to England as a location?

[EXIGE]

the problem is, judges are not the only problem. the ref and ring doctor also factor in

I said an American ref, at least one American judge, and I didnt say it before but since you insist, ill throw an American ring doctor in.

Factor that in with the 5% purse increase for PBF. Is there any pleasing you?

[DUPLICITY]

Apparently Hatton is ducking Mayweather, right?

If that is so lets make this a bit more attractive... perhaps we could have a 5% gain of the purse in favour of Mayweather, an American judge of his choice of the boards choice, and at least 1 American judge...

We hold it in the MEN Arena in Manchester, which I believe has a larger capacity than all of the Vegas venues and possibly even MSG....

We stick it on PPV and the fighters will receive the biggest pay day of their lives, and everyone's happy, including the fans.

Where is the objection?

Hey Exige. 'Tard here.

You may not be aware of a little something called a time difference. Yes. A time difference. Since the earth revolves around the sun and different parts of the earth get exposed to daylight at different times, we are required to assign something called "time zones".

You see, England is FIVE hours ahead of the east coast and EIGHT hours ahead of the west coast. That is why Kostya Tszyu had to fight at 2am Manchester local time. Jeff Lacy is doing the same thing.

Now, neither Lacy nor Tszyu are PPV stand-alones on their own. But PBF believes he is, and his promotional team is casting and marketing him as such.

So, you are asking him to fight at 2am Manchester time so that the fight can be shown in Vegas and LA at 5pm-ish on a Saturday afternoon. Does that seem appealing to you? A 3pm broadcast time in Los Angeles with a 6pm main event will result in WAY lower PPV buys. Us hardcore fans are still in. The casual fan? Ehhh, not so much.

Also, you may or may not be aware of this (I learned it in ****** school). Casinos in the US pay what is called a "site fee" to help finance a fight. For example, the Mandalay Bay has paid up to $10 million for a DelaHoya fight. They also do ticket guarantees where they buy a certain number of the high priced tickets. That minimizes a promoter's risk. The casinos are willing to do that knowing that they will sell rooms, meals and make a bundle back in the casinos. Notice how table minimums always increase on fight weekends.

Lastly (and I would have thought that you knew this already being the genius that you are), the main money in a megafight comes NOT from the arena capacity, but from PPV buys. If an arena holds 20,000 vs 12,000... big whoop. Selling an extra 10,000 tickets at $100 each is only a million of revenue. It is FAR more important to focus on getting your PPV buys up from 350,000 to 450,000, for example. That amounts to an incremental four point five mil of revenue. Surprised that math escaped you. The biggest non-heavyweight fight was ODLH/Trinidad. That was at Mandalay Bay Events Center.

I know I said "lastly" above. I lied. By having one of their contracted boxers fight overseas, HBO puts substantial licensing rights at risk. International broadcast rights are complicated and HBO would undoubtedly have to share revenues with British broadcasting partners who own the infrastructure.

Boy, Exige... really wish I was as knowledgeable as you are about the boxing business.