Is Bradley P4P # two if he beats Pac??

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  • HeroBando
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    #31
    Originally posted by LarryXXX
    Bradley entered the list AFTER the Manny fight

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    On fine and now hes #1 welter contender. Then and now rated higher p4p than anyone Ward has fought

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    • Dirk Diggler UK
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      #32
      Originally posted by Keitha313
      I honestly think there is way too much hype around Andre Ward, yes he has some good names to his record but he didn't fight a prime Kessler...

      His best victory is Carl Froch and even at that come on man...
      We all know Carl is a limited fighter with an iron will and iron chin but completely lacking on technical boxing ability to really challenge Ward.

      See If I'm being truthful I think Bradley has beat more relative people than Ward has in his entire career and yes I don't count Chad Dawson as a legitimate victory he was at the end of his tether thus why I still rate Pacquiao, Wladimir and Bhop ahead of him.
      Bradley clearly lost to Pacquiao and has a questionable win over a 40 year old Marquez. What else? Ward has pretty much beaten everyone relevant in his division and in dominant fashion, not scraping controversial split decisions.

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      • Rome-By-Ko
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        #33
        Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK
        Number 1 spot in what?



        Well let me tell you how P4P rankings work. They are a list of who a person thinks are the best fighters in the world pound-for-pound. I don't know why you'd be moved up based on activity. Skills and performances are what counts - Ward is just a different level to Bradley when it comes to that.
        To your 1st question use your brain..

        To ya 2end statement..I know how a P4P list works..You seem to not tho,how can you leave resume off the criteria for the P4P list..This is why he should move up..How exactly is Ward a different class when Bradley is directly(in my rick voice)behind Ward right now..This guy serious??

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          #34
          Originally posted by Rome-By-Ko
          To your 1st question use your brain..
          I don't know what the **** you're talking about. You're always randomly calling out Amir Khan's name like some kind of spontaneous ******.

          Originally posted by Rome-By-Ko
          To ya 2end statement..I know how a P4P list works..You seem to not tho,how can you leave resume off the criteria for the P4P list..This is why he should move up..How exactly is Ward a different class when Bradley is directly(in my rick voice)behind Ward right now..This guy serious??
          Ward's resume is better. I don't count fake wins.

          Bradley is directly behind him in what? Not in my list. Different class of fighters.

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          • Rome-By-Ko
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            #35
            Originally posted by LarryXXX
            that was in 2010,you do not drop down in weight for 2 years and remain ranked at ww..plus i listed proof to back up my facts
            You said that Bradley was not a ranked WW..Yet he was..Maybe not when he fought Pac..I can't remember that..I do remember him being ranked top 10 at WW tho..

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            • pnksntdead
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              #36
              Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK
              Since when does being "more active" make you a better fighter. It doesn't.
              it matters when one guy fights once a year and faces edwin rodriguez and the other guy fights more often, facing providnikov, marquez and then beats pacquiao (if).

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              • Bermuda
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                #37
                Originally posted by Kingjames6
                At the time Bradley was moving up tho. He wasn't an established welter at the time.
                he was an established top ten p4p though

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                • M Bison
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                  #38
                  Originally posted by pnksntdead
                  why not? a dominant, non-controversial win against manny is better than anything that the p4p #1 & #2 has ever done so if you're looking at scalps, he's ahead of both. both 1 & 2 are undefeated and considerably more skilled but, based on competition, bradley has a good case. depends on how you look at it. For me, beating an ATG weighs more than an undefeated record and potential.
                  Can't argue with that, definitely has a point.

                  Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK
                  Bradley clearly lost to Pacquiao and has a questionable win over a 40 year old Marquez. What else? Ward has pretty much beaten everyone relevant in his division and in dominant fashion, not scraping controversial split decisions.
                  Bradley clearly lost to Pacquiao I'll give you that but to say he had a questionable victory over Marquez?
                  Damn... Bradley at times was making JMM look ****** in there and that is just the harsh truth.
                  Bradley gives exciting fights, he doesn't need to clinch all the time and turn fights into wrestling matches, albeit I'm not Bradley's biggest fan but he has undoubtedly accomplished more than Ward.

                  Just talk to the average person out on the street I bet you most will have heard of Bradley but not of Ward and that goes with the territory of having big fights.

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                  • Doctor_Tenma
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                    #39
                    That would depend, Bradley performed very well against Marquez which strengthened his P4P standing, performance is a very important factor. I give him all the credit for beating Pacquiao, don't care where most fall as I know what I watched but the fact is, while he could have gotten the decision it wasn't decisive enough...now if he does it decisively and in good fashion maybe he'll be number 2 on my list, maybe. It's hard to ignore Ward's dominance even with his inactivity/ decent wins recently.

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                    • Dirk Diggler UK
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                      #40
                      Originally posted by pnksntdead
                      it matters when one guy fights once a year and faces edwin rodriguez and the other guy fights more often, facing providnikov, marquez and then beats pacquiao (if).
                      He wasn't impressive in either of those fights. Any fighter can be "active" and get a couple of questionable decisions - doesn't make them a better fighter.

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