Does Lomanchenko losing make Rigo look better ?

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  • Cuban Linx
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    #71
    Originally posted by CubanGuyNYC
    I dunno. The way Rigo looked against Cordoba in his seventh pro fight doesn't seem to bear this out. I don't think Salido would've knocked Guillermo out, but I don't think Rigo was ready at all for a guy like Siri in only his second pro bout. I can't even imagine what that would've played out like, but I certainly don't see "El Chacal" KOing Orlando. Gamboa was a machine when he fought Salido, and even he couldn't close the show.
    That's what I'm saying. Rigo's toughest fight ever was with Cordoba, and it wasn't because Cordoba was a world beater, it was because Rigo didn't have enough pro experience to fight someone with 30 pro fights under his belt. He even somehow got knocked down in that fight. Now that Rigo has adapted to the pro game has big fights under his belt, if he faced that same Cordoba NOW, he would have knocked him out or pitched a shut out.

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    • CubanGuyNYC
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      #72
      Originally posted by Cuban Linx
      That's what I'm saying. Rigo's toughest fight ever was with Cordoba, and it wasn't because Cordoba was a world beater, it was because Rigo didn't have enough pro experience to fight someone with 30 pro fights under his belt. He even somehow got knocked down in that fight. Now that Rigo has adapted to the pro game has big fights under his belt, if he faced that same Cordoba NOW, he would have knocked him out or pitched a shut out.
      Agreed 100%

      This is why pro sports have pre-season, so the athletes can get up to speed. They're the same superstars you see during the regular season, but their performance isn't the same until they're back in full swing. Rigo would utterly dominate or KO Cordoba now. Hell, he was doing a damn good job for the first six rounds in their meeting.

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      • Bushidō
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        #73
        People wanted to find someone else who was more crowd pleasing so they jumped on Loma's train. Rigo is here to stay..and so is Loma so its way too early to make comparisons on who is better.

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        • -PBP-
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          #74
          No. Rigos lineal title, unified champion status and resume is all he needs to do his talking.

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          • CubanGuyNYC
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            #75
            Originally posted by IronDanHamza
            There's quite the huge gulf in class between them.

            Rigondeaux's talent and skills are very apparent.

            Lomachenko's lack of such are very apparent.
            I dunno, Dan. I know Lomachenko didn't look especially impressive versus Salido, but things have to be taken into context. Rigo's skills and talent were evident to me and those who followed him as an amateur, but many disagreed...until he fought Donaire. Now everyone seems to agree Guillermo is a master (although many complain about his being "boring"). I think withholding judgment just a little longer is in order. I saw Vasyl as an amateur, and I liked what I saw very much.

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            • BattleAxePurist
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              #76
              Would Vasyl have beaten a Rico Ramos type in his first title defense ... who knows but you'd have to like his chances.

              As for the WSB fights they were set up to allow them to keep their ams. status so he was fighting in a pro backdrop but against other amateurs not really the same thing as fighting real pros as it showed against Salido.

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              • -PBP-
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                #77
                And I consider this Lomachenkos 7th pro fight. WSB is pro boxing to me no matter how they try and disguise it.

                So to make the proper comparison you have to compare Lomo and Rigo after their 7th fight.

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                • Foreign Soil
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                  #78
                  Originally posted by PBP
                  And I consider this Lomachenkos 7th pro fight. WSB is pro boxing to me no matter how they try and disguise it.

                  So to make the proper comparison you have to compare Lomo and Rigo after their 7th fight.
                  Not really. Those weren't seasoned pro fighters in the WSB.

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                  • CubanGuyNYC
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                    #79
                    Originally posted by RyunosukeRonin
                    Would Vasyl have beaten a Rico Ramos type in his first title defense ... who knows but you'd have to like his chances.

                    As for the WSB fights they were set up to allow them to keep their ams. status so he was fighting in a pro backdrop but against other amateurs not really the same thing as fighting real pros as it showed against Salido.
                    Yeah, the WSB is more like "semi-pro." The one good thing it has going for it is that sometimes top amateurs face each other in a pro setting.

                    I would've liked Lomo's chances versus Ramos. He wasn't all that. The guy landed one big shot in a fight he was losing against Shimoda. Rico was scared to death versus Guillermo. He did his best Michael Spinks impersonation that night.

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                    • CubanGuyNYC
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                      #80
                      Originally posted by Foreign Soil
                      Not really. Those weren't seasoned pro fighters in the WSB.
                      True. But some of those WSB boys are better, much better, than your typical 4-15 fighter most stars fight on their way up.

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