Who is the best active fighter with 50+ pro wins

[Spray_resistant]

I wanna see Stiverne-Andre Ward though in truth.

or Arreola-Andre Ward.

I know they are size mismatches and all, but life isn't fair.

Yes, its good to be big strong but Ward might be good enough to not get caught here.

[DondiNeverLeft]

Agreed to all. Hopkins successfully fighting at a championship level at nearly 50 is also extraordinary. Also, we mustn't forget that there are different kinds of PEDs, not just steroids. They affect human performance in different ways, not always in the most obvious fashion.

Thanks. Again I'm not knocking Pac but I think sometimes guy like or admire a person so much (fighter or not) that they see what the want.

Ask any fan if they believe Pacs run was extra ordinary and they will say yes. Ask them if it warrants a closer look. They will say no.

I'm formerly from NY and many fans of Giambi would defend him, Arod too, forget about the long list of Dominican players that were busted and all their fans swore on it.... Their clean...lol . Love blinds in any sport and boxing is no exception. Especially when your a hardcore fan.

[richardt]

Pac did the same thing. Started crushing bigger guys, moving up weights, looking questionable.. Simply put. He was doing the extraordinary. The word is fitting because EXTRA ORDINARY means not normal. THATS why. .

That is nothing but a perpetrated myth. Roach had him using his jab more and setting up his punches better, straighter, and less looping and his two biggest KO's were against face first Hatton and Diaz. Two out of Pac's last 8 fights have ended in KO. Mayweather also had a big KO against Hatton and even Holt knocked out Diaz. All the BS Mayweather launched that questioned Pac only convinced simple-minded people with an agenda.

[NearHypnos]

I'd say Wlad, Sergio, Pacquiao in any order followed by bhop. Pacquiao and Sergio are at a spot right now where losing to almost any top guy in their division would not be surprising though Martinez gets a nod over Pac for me personally due to the clear size disadvantages hes faced from top guys in his class... B Hop could lose to almost anyone at this stage imo... I still dont see anyone beating Wladimir...

[CubanGuyNYC]

Thanks. Again I'm not knocking Pac but I think sometimes guy like or admire a person so much (fighter or not) that they see what the want.

Ask any fan if they believe Pacs run was extra ordinary and they will say yes. Ask them if it warrants a closer look. They will say no.

I'm formerly from NY and many fans of Giambi would defend him, Arod too, forget about the long list of Dominican players that were busted and all their fans swore on it.... Their clean...lol . Love blinds in any sport and boxing is no exception. Especially when your a hardcore fan.

Yeah, love blinds. lol

I'm a big baseball fan. Once I realized how many great players were juicing, I realized that even the guys who appear clean aren't necessarily so. Even a guy like Jeter, whom, as a Yankee fan I love, might've used PEDs in the past. It's always the power guys that get scrutinized, both in boxing and in baseball. PEDs do more than just make you look like the Incredible Hulk and crush everything in sight.

[BattlingNelson]

Yes, its good to be big strong but Ward might be good enough to not get caught here.

Yeah. He should just use his head.

[Bermuda]

easily pacquiao...2nd would be wlad

[RubenSonny]

39 year old men don't usually get better, they get worse. JMM looked and performed better than he ever did versus Pac by a mile. Sure, Manny walked into a perfect counter and got KTFO, but Marquez never even knocked Pacquiao down in over thirty six previous rounds. All of a sudden, at age 39, he manages to knock Manny down twice in the same fight, the second by spectacular fashion. I would say that is all extraordinary. Of course, Pac's career has also been extraordinary. lol

Completely disagree, he looked worse than he ever had, he was very slow, he managed to land an amazing ounch but other than that he didn't look good at all.

[Bermuda]

Completely disagree, he looked worse than he ever had, he was very slow, he managed to land an amazing ounch but other than that he didn't look good at all.

he looked slower/sluggish because he was packing more roid muscle....

for example, marquez went ultra super saiyan (thanks to heredia roids)..more power and muscle but less speed...

[Mr.Fantastic]

Best fighter: Pacquiao
Best boxer: Hopkins
Most dominant: Wlad
Most accomplished: Pacquiao


Best: Pacquiao