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I like Danny Garcia, but he will be out boxed by any decent mover

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  • #41
    Originally posted by TheHolyCross View Post
    morales is a beast with his straight right, seriously man you are overrating garcia in every category, you know how many fights morales has changed with that straight right to the body? garcia's right isn't anywhere near the level of morales or marquez's, not anywhere near, like at all

    and is garcia even active enough to make them count? morales won that fight by what a point or two?(seriously can't remember)

    it's not giving him the fight, pacquiao is also not draining


    judah fight, only southpaw he's fought as far as i know(haven't done a full sweep of his career)


    a random right hand isn't going to get him anything but misses
    he can land here and there but for the most part pacquiao will be landing more, and cleaner


    maybe, sure?


    not that good of a mover, he is either simply straight up moving, holding or he stops and counters against the ropes, that's his movement?
    and also not as good as bradley's, pacquiao wasn't too bothered there


    counters do that to everyone who isn't margarito

    pacquiao will still land when he wants to


    and still had crazy stamina, no quit and an iron chin, the guy is also very fast, nowhere near the same thing as pacquiao's usually aggressors, it would be a war and although pacquiao can win on better placed shots i can see him losing too


    thurman is a brawler but garcia is a great mover?
    from what i've seen thurman's movement > garcia's
    he can actually punch on the move

    What were your predictions for Garcia-Khan and Garcia-Lucas
    garcia-khan didn't register on my radar
    i said garcia-matthysse is a toss up but would slightly favor matthysse because he has better defense(and he did, till his eye went to sht)[/QUOTE]
    I'll keep what you said and everything I said in mind if they ever fight

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    • #42
      Bradley doesn't DESTROY anyone. What he would do is school Garcia.

      That combination of jab, movement, and counters is too much for D

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      • #43
        I agree that sort of fight would probably be tough for Garcia especially if they have range on him.


        Still I would say it would take someone much more than decent to get the job done, and the guy I have seen used are much beyond decent. Also I think Bradley would be a good fight, to me that would be Garcia's limit but that is a pretty high limit.
        Last edited by The Gambler1981; 03-01-2014, 02:23 PM.

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        • #44
          Mayweather hasn't destroyed anyone since Sharmba Mitchell in 2005. He'd win by UD, but there would be no destruction taking place. Hatton, Mosley, Marquez are close as we'll ever get for the current Floyd destroying some one.

          Pacquiao seems to destroy way past prime fighters like De La Hoya and Margarito. Otherwise I would say he really beat Cotto up but that's about it. He didn't even destroy Clottey, Mosley, Bradley, Marquez, Rios, he's on the decline. He's not exactly destroying any one anymore.

          Bradley is another guy who I haven't really seen destroying prime fighters. He beat Peterson clearly, other than that he only really "destroyed" an old, blown up Casamayor.

          All 3 could beat him, but I don't know about destroying.

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          • #45
            He fights at 140 so he only has to fight other 140 pounders.He is a good champion and I don't think he will be an easy win for anybody. He beat Matthysse and that is not an easy thing to do.

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            • #46
              Originally posted by -Kev- View Post
              Mayweather hasn't destroyed anyone since Sharmba Mitchell in 2005. He'd win by UD, but there would be no destruction taking place. Hatton, Mosley, Marquez are close as we'll ever get for the current Floyd destroying some one.

              Pacquiao seems to destroy way past prime fighters like De La Hoya and Margarito. Otherwise I would say he really beat Cotto up but that's about it. He didn't even destroy Clottey, Mosley, Bradley, Marquez, Rios, he's on the decline. He's not exactly destroying any one anymore.

              Bradley is another guy who I haven't really seen destroying prime fighters. He beat Peterson clearly, other than that he only really "destroyed" an old, blown up Casamayor.

              All 3 could beat him, but I don't know about destroying.
              you think u gotta KO one of those dudes to consider destroy? lmfao

              floyd destroyed hatton, mosley, and marquez

              pac destroyed clottey,mosley, and rios

              if ur landing almost 150 punches more then ur opponent.. i think that means u got destroyed

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              • #47
                Originally posted by toshmurph View Post
                Well I think you've got Ray Charles syndrome if you don't think he's improved since the morales or Theophane fight (when he was 20/21!!) I've been a critic of him in the past but I gotta give him credit, he makes a living shutting up his critics..

                I'm done betting against swift, May and Pac are the only guys that I would be certain he'd get beat by!
                He wins, can't fault that.

                However someone said khan is a mover. Khan has no chin and was not moving. His game plan was to hurt Danny... Wrong move, Danny has a beard.

                Matthyse was feared but also a power puncher. Wrong style... Plus before he was injured the fight was close. Zab and Alexander is matthyse level.

                Zab looked worse vs Paulie than Danny.

                A shot Morales in the first made him look wild, and he still is.



                Maybe I will retract destroyed but I really feel all 3 win by 10 rounds.

                If he felt khan was fast, he will feel the speed of Manny and Floyd. Bradley is really skilled and smart when he chooses. Honestly I don't see Bradley being hit by those wide shots of he boxes

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                • #48
                  I disagree with those who say he would beat Pacquiao. He is a good champion but I think Pacquiao is superior to him in just about every way. I think Garcia would beat Rios in a close war. There is no way in hell I can see Garcia completely dominating Rios and winning every round and hardly getting hit while landing 4 or 5 clean punches in a row without getting hit in return. That is what Pacquiao did to Rios. Pacquiao is about the same size as Danny but that is where the similarity ends. Pacquiao is faster, harder to hit, a harder puncher and he throws more punches. The Marquez KO of Pacquiao was a perfect punch that would have knocked Danny out just as cold. If Pacquiao can take Cotto's punches he can stay on his feet from anything Danny can hit him with.

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                  • #49
                    Originally posted by boliodogs View Post
                    I disagree with those who say he would beat Pacquiao. He is a good champion but I think Pacquiao is superior to him in just about every way. I think Garcia would beat Rios in a close war. There is no way in hell I can see Garcia completely dominating Rios and winning every round and hardly getting hit while landing 4 or 5 clean punches in a row without getting hit in return. That is what Pacquiao did to Rios. Pacquiao is about the same size as Danny but that is where the similarity ends. Pacquiao is faster, harder to hit, a harder puncher and he throws more punches. The Marquez KO of Pacquiao was a perfect punch that would have knocked Danny out just as cold. If Pacquiao can take Cotto's punches he can stay on his feet from anything Danny can hit him with.
                    I agree. Danny hits hard but he hasn't taken out many of the top guys.

                    Khan had no chin and was wreckless

                    Morales shot

                    Zab survived

                    Matthyse survived

                    Holt survived


                    Imo pac ain't getting ko'd

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                    • #50
                      I'm not even going to read all of the post on this one. Danny is the type of fighter that is just like B-hop. Everyone wants to hate on him because he beat their favorite fighter but in the end everyone will be a fan. Swift isn't world class, but he uses what he has to his advantage. Give him more time and we'll see how he unfolds. But to put him against Floyd or Manny this year and it would be a year or two to soon.

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