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  • #81
    Originally posted by Rome-By-Ko View Post
    Listen I'm not saying Prov winning is a lock..I also would not agree that Matt's winning is a lock..It would be a good fight in my book..The same goes for Danny,Prov will bring a different skill set then Matt's..Prov and Matt's are both good fighters..They have very different mentality's tho..Prov is more balls to the wall then Matt's..Personally I think it'd be interesting..
    Prov's best W is Alvarado. People need to settle down with the Provodnikov hype is all I'm saying.

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    • #82
      Originally posted by King- View Post
      Unstoppable? You're so angry, man.



      You're saying that the 140lb WBO champion of the world is unworthy of being talked about as a potential opponent for another 140lb champion.... How silly are you?


      ITT: fighters who don't fit our agendas aren't allowed to be talked about. Nothing but a hype job!
      Angry about what? No agenda here. Provodnikov's title is as paper as it can get. Who did Alvarado even beat for that title lol

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      • #83
        Originally posted by Holywarrior View Post
        Prov's best W is Alvarado. People need to settle down with the Provodnikov hype is all I'm saying.
        why's everything gotta be about hype? people see his style and think he'd fair alright vs garcia, i think he has a good chance but he'd be hardpressed to win a decision(unless alot of kd's or catching danny with something that helps him steal rounds), danny i think would take more rounds

        but i think he beats everyone in garcia's resume easily, besides maybe matthysse, not sure how that fight would go, never seen matthysse on the backfoot

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        • #84
          Originally posted by DempseyRollin View Post
          oh please and tell me, what are u doing rite now??? and if ur gona say that about mathysse, tell me who the hell did provid beat? and yes his fans went overboard. but his fans arent him, the fighter. that fight was pretty much 50/50 to most reasonable posters. i myself thought it would be a matt win eventhough i was going for danny. im still trying understand your point tho. matt has a much better resume than provid and hes loooked much better against a higher level of opposition. one fight does not write a career, esp when u still lost said fight.
          What do you mean what I'm doing right now?

          Provodnikov went life and death with One of the best fighters in the world. He beat a champion after that and took his belt. He has a lot of momentum right now and has made obvious improvements to his game since his only loss.

          Forget about resumes. Provodnikov is a problem for ANYONE right now. He has a style that has the blueprint layed out to beat.... But like you say, it's not the fans (it's easy to say Fighter A) will outbox Prov easily! Sitting from your couch) it's the fighters in there who have to deal with it and Provodnikovs relentless pressure, improved defense and movement on top of what seems to be a granite chin would be a problem for anybody. Even the ( I guess now untouchable?) Danny Garcia


          Provodnikov does arguably everything better then Matthyssee. And even if he doesn't, they're two completely different fighters and just because Danny beat Lucas....... Doesn't mean he runs through Provodnikov because he already paid his "I beat the overhyped brawler" dues


          This is an absolute legitimate matchup to discuss here and everyone is getting so defensive and getting their panties in a bunch!

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          • #85
            Originally posted by Holywarrior View Post
            Prov's best W is Alvarado. People need to settle down with the Provodnikov hype is all I'm saying.
            I think certain power guy's will always bring hype..Just look at Matt's Prov Ortiz etc etc..I'm not trying to hype Prov..Just saying,don't downplay him so much either..I think he'd give Danny a hard time..He brings things that Matt's did not,he has a mentality that Matt's did not have as well..The same goes for if Prov and Matt's fought each other..I really don't know how that would play out..

            I have a fighter I would favor..Yet nothing would really surprise me in that fight,as far as who wins..Either of them can win..

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            • #86
              Originally posted by TheHolyCross View Post
              why's everything gotta be about hype? people see his style and think he'd fair alright vs garcia, i think he has a good chance but he'd be hardpressed to win a decision(unless alot of kd's or catching danny with something that helps him steal rounds), danny i think would take more rounds

              but i think he beats everyone in garcia's resume easily, besides maybe matthysse, not sure how that fight would go, never seen matthysse on the backfoot
              There is no maybe about it. Matthysse would be the toughest fight of Provodnikov's career easily.

              Bradley almost stopped him imagine once Matthysse touched him up?

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              • #87
                Originally posted by Holywarrior View Post
                Prov's best W is Alvarado. People need to settle down with the Provodnikov hype is all I'm saying.
                Hype? I think you need to just get over it. Provodnikov is a legitimate titlist worthy of being talked about.



                Anytime someone comes in the conversation as a fighters potential opponent on here, that fighters fans always get their pants soaked and get so sour and start throwing the word hype job around.

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                • #88
                  Originally posted by Holywarrior View Post
                  There is no maybe about it. Matthysse would be the toughest fight of Provodnikov's career easily.

                  Bradley almost stopped him imagine once Matthysse touched him up?
                  what do you mean no maybe about it? when i said that i didn't mean maybe he doesn't beat him easily, i meant he probabley doesn't beat matthysse at all,

                  i have never really thought about the fight between these two, but it could possibly end in a ko either way

                  matthysse is not as durable or as conditioned as bradley, he wont have the output and he walks right to people, as i said never seen him fight on the backfoot

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                  • #89
                    Originally posted by King- View Post
                    Hype? I think you need to just get over it. Provodnikov is a legitimate titlist worthy of being talked about.

                    Anytime someone comes in the conversation as a fighters potential opponent on here, that fighters fans always get their pants soaked and get so sour and start throwing the word hype job around.
                    His title is paper. But he is a solid fighter. I'd just choose guys like Garcia and Matthysse over him that's all.

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                    • #90
                      Originally posted by bojangles1987 View Post
                      Matthysse is smarter in the ring, has better defense, throws sharper punches, and has better stamina. Not saying he's a hugely superior fighter to Ruslan, but he is better. I'm not sure Provodnikov hits harder, either. I'd say their power is about the same.
                      im not to sure about that but im not going to argue with it. they are both fairly similar imo.

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